[NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF

Sat Nov 25 21:52:00 CET 2017

Hi Michael and all

This is the 3rd year NCUC sponsors this event.

There is a call for travel support, most of the times partial, and it
has been awarded to members before.

More importantly than this being an IGF event, it is an event which
brings together CSCG participants - Civil Society Coordination Group.
These are a group of umbrella-organizations like NCSG under which
other organizations and constituencies are represented and have this
mechanism to coordinate on internet governance strategic actions, such
as IGF MAG Selection. Given our Additional Budget Requests approved
for IGF participation, we want to be a part of this. Given most of our
organizational members being there and collaborating with
presentations, some with sponsorship too, this is a time where we can
show we can work together and maybe even get more organizations to
come under our umbrella.

I think opening the event should be EC Europe, so we can also show we
are a strong and varied group.

I do think we have a lot lined up on our queue of sponsorship with the
Policy Course coming up.

So maybe we can close the book on this on approving the sponsorship of 1000USD

Not the minimum according to our Procedures, not the full amount requested.

Please I need all EC to chime in since we decide by majority

Thanks

Renata

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
<michael at law-democracy.org> wrote:
> Ok - so if I understand this correctly - the funding wouldn't actually go
> towards our participation, or getting a representative there, but rather
> towards sponsoring the event itself?
>
> If that's the case, I would lean against it. Again, this comes back to the
> difference of whether or not we're a "funding organization". If the event is
> likely to go forward either way, I am doubtful as to whether this
> expenditure would provide much of a boost for the NCUC. If it were about
> actually bringing someone to IGF, I'd be more sympathetic.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> EC, remember you don't need to approve the full request. You can
>> provide funding for a lesser amount.
>>
>> Michael, in answer to your question, more information form Farzaneh below
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM
>> Subject: More information
>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi Renata,
>>
>> Civil Society day is a pre-IGF event which is organized by various
>> civil society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC.
>>
>> The event is normally attended by around 50-60 people.
>>
>> Most of the networks pitch in money, or source money. EFF pitches
>> money in, and NCUC funded civil society day last year too (I think
>> around 1000 USD). Food in Geneva is expensive, the menu that we are
>> looking at is around 2200 CHF (Swiss Frank). We asked ICANN to fund it
>> as well.
>>
>> At the moment Jeremy told me that to serve lunch during the event, it
>> comes to 2200 USD. If ICANN and EFF chip in too we can have a pot of
>> money to cover food and cover partial travel funding upon request.
>>
>>  Some put forward their request in registration list to get partial
>> funding to attend the meeting. The program committee decides on who
>> gets funded and for how much(program committee consists of the
>> networks reps: IGC, NCSG EFF, APC, JNC. The participants can be
>> members of the civil society networks, bestbits etc. Last year for
>> Mexico I think we supported partially two travelers from LAC.
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > fwding a Michael's message to this list which got sidetracked
>> > I'll answer soon
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> Cc: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>> >> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> >> Bcc:
>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:32:05 -0400
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF
>> >> I have no objection, but can we get a bit more details as to where the
>> >> money is going? Who are the “selected participants”? 1500 is a lot for food
>> >> - presumably that’s toward airfare and accommodation too?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Bruna
>> >>>
>> >>> No, the our Procedures require us to analyse case by case and
>> >>> recommend an average amount (which is smaller) for more general and
>> >>> urgent requests.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Civil Society Meeting (this is the correct name) has had funded
>> >>> travellers before. I guess it depends on their final balance of
>> >>> expenses whether the money will go to fund a new traveller or help pay
>> >>> for extra hotel nights to attend, for instance.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Renata,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Given what was stated in Farzi's email - the fact that you'll be in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> opening ceremony and that Farzi will also have a moment to brief
>> >>>> people
>> >>>> about NCSG/NCUC - the bestbits meeting can be considered the NCUC
>> >>>> outreaching event for the IGF and I would not oppose on giving some
>> >>>> money to
>> >>>> the event.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One question though, are we supporting members for the IGF itself or
>> >>>> when we
>> >>>> talk about the 1500 USD for food and modest travel funding are we
>> >>>> considering funding more people ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Also, does the operating procedures oppose to the amount of money
>> >>>> requested
>> >>>> ? (not from my initial reading)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> best,
>> >>>> B
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2017-11-24 12:55 GMT-02:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dear EC
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm forwarding Farzaneh's request for NCUC EC to support civil
>> >>>>> society
>> >>>>> day.
>> >>>>> In previous editions this event also had NCUC support.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> NCUC Operating Procedures mention allocation of funds on itens VI
>> >>>>> and VII
>> >>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Although this event is a budget higher than the average recommended
>> >>>>> for approval (USD 500) and the timeline is a bit short, you must
>> >>>>> also
>> >>>>> have in mind we have had no budget for outreach events for IGF
>> >>>>> approved, we do have a workshop there, and our traditional form for
>> >>>>> outreach is to be reviewed, so the request was sent via email
>> >>>>> because
>> >>>>> of that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I would also ask Farzaneh to provide materials to publicize the
>> >>>>> event
>> >>>>> before and after the meeting (program and report - with speakers
>> >>>>> main
>> >>>>> points).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please review the request and send in your comments
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Funding civil society day before IGF
>> >>>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dear Renata,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I was wondering if you and NCUC EC could consider funding the civil
>> >>>>> society day before IGF? I am requesting 1500 USD which goes towards
>> >>>>> food and perhaps some modest travel funding for the selected
>> >>>>> participants.  You as the NCUC chair will open the day with Jovan
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>> Diplo and I have also gotten a brief timeslot to talk about
>> >>>>> NCUC/NCSG.
>> >>>>> I am the NCSG rep on the planning committee of this meeting.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Here is the link to the event.
>> >>>>> https://bestbits.net/events/joint-cs-2017/?instance_id=
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Farzaneh
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >>>> @boomartins
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