[NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF

Michael Karanicolas michael at law-democracy.org
Sat Nov 25 17:35:16 CET 2017


Ok - so if I understand this correctly - the funding wouldn't actually go
towards our participation, or getting a representative there, but rather
towards sponsoring the event itself?

If that's the case, I would lean against it. Again, this comes back to the
difference of whether or not we're a "funding organization". If the event
is likely to go forward either way, I am doubtful as to whether this
expenditure would provide much of a boost for the NCUC. If it were about
actually bringing someone to IGF, I'd be more sympathetic.



On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> EC, remember you don't need to approve the full request. You can
> provide funding for a lesser amount.
>
> Michael, in answer to your question, more information form Farzaneh below
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM
> Subject: More information
> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Renata,
>
> Civil Society day is a pre-IGF event which is organized by various
> civil society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC.
>
> The event is normally attended by around 50-60 people.
>
> Most of the networks pitch in money, or source money. EFF pitches
> money in, and NCUC funded civil society day last year too (I think
> around 1000 USD). Food in Geneva is expensive, the menu that we are
> looking at is around 2200 CHF (Swiss Frank). We asked ICANN to fund it
> as well.
>
> At the moment Jeremy told me that to serve lunch during the event, it
> comes to 2200 USD. If ICANN and EFF chip in too we can have a pot of
> money to cover food and cover partial travel funding upon request.
>
>  Some put forward their request in registration list to get partial
> funding to attend the meeting. The program committee decides on who
> gets funded and for how much(program committee consists of the
> networks reps: IGC, NCSG EFF, APC, JNC. The participants can be
> members of the civil society networks, bestbits etc. Last year for
> Mexico I think we supported partially two travelers from LAC.
>
> Best
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> > fwding a Michael's message to this list which got sidetracked
> > I'll answer soon
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm" <
> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> >> Bcc:
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:32:05 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF
> >> I have no objection, but can we get a bit more details as to where the
> money is going? Who are the “selected participants”? 1500 is a lot for food
> - presumably that’s toward airfare and accommodation too?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Bruna
> >>>
> >>> No, the our Procedures require us to analyse case by case and
> >>> recommend an average amount (which is smaller) for more general and
> >>> urgent requests.
> >>>
> >>> The Civil Society Meeting (this is the correct name) has had funded
> >>> travellers before. I guess it depends on their final balance of
> >>> expenses whether the money will go to fund a new traveller or help pay
> >>> for extra hotel nights to attend, for instance.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Renata,
> >>>>
> >>>> Given what was stated in Farzi's email - the fact that you'll be in
> the
> >>>> opening ceremony and that Farzi will also have a moment to brief
> people
> >>>> about NCSG/NCUC - the bestbits meeting can be considered the NCUC
> >>>> outreaching event for the IGF and I would not oppose on giving some
> money to
> >>>> the event.
> >>>>
> >>>> One question though, are we supporting members for the IGF itself or
> when we
> >>>> talk about the 1500 USD for food and modest travel funding are we
> >>>> considering funding more people ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, does the operating procedures oppose to the amount of money
> requested
> >>>> ? (not from my initial reading)
> >>>>
> >>>> best,
> >>>> B
> >>>>
> >>>> 2017-11-24 12:55 GMT-02:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear EC
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm forwarding Farzaneh's request for NCUC EC to support civil
> society
> >>>>> day.
> >>>>> In previous editions this event also had NCUC support.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NCUC Operating Procedures mention allocation of funds on itens VI
> and VII
> >>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Although this event is a budget higher than the average recommended
> >>>>> for approval (USD 500) and the timeline is a bit short, you must also
> >>>>> have in mind we have had no budget for outreach events for IGF
> >>>>> approved, we do have a workshop there, and our traditional form for
> >>>>> outreach is to be reviewed, so the request was sent via email because
> >>>>> of that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would also ask Farzaneh to provide materials to publicize the event
> >>>>> before and after the meeting (program and report - with speakers main
> >>>>> points).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please review the request and send in your comments
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Funding civil society day before IGF
> >>>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Renata,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was wondering if you and NCUC EC could consider funding the civil
> >>>>> society day before IGF? I am requesting 1500 USD which goes towards
> >>>>> food and perhaps some modest travel funding for the selected
> >>>>> participants.  You as the NCUC chair will open the day with Jovan
> from
> >>>>> Diplo and I have also gotten a brief timeslot to talk about
> NCUC/NCSG.
> >>>>> I am the NCSG rep on the planning committee of this meeting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is the link to the event.
> >>>>> https://bestbits.net/events/joint-cs-2017/?instance_id=
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Farzaneh
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>
> >>>> +55 61 99252-6512
> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> @boomartins
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