[NCUC-EC] NCUC ICANN61 Mentee

[Michael Karanicolas]

Sorry - just a small point of clarification - are you saying Matthew
Shears was funded as a mentee? And this was relatively recent?

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
<raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Michael
>
> We are looking for mentees, yes.
> However, as competition for fellowship and travel support is
> increasing, our mentees are starting to show much more work.
> So you have here an application of someone who did participate in
> Public Comments and is advocating NCUC positions in working group
> lists.
> But this is person is an entry-level appointment position without
> funding (which is the case of PC NCSG).
> So even if this person had more experience in working groups,
> considering them senior (as Matthew Shears was, for instance), in my
> view, would be too much.
> Maybe intermediate experience? Which is best than junior, imho.
> The best world would be our mentees gather at least some experience
> _before_ we grant them the travel support.
>
> But, as I said, I can only share information with you, from past
> scenarios of PC NCSG applying to this specific type of travel support.
> As far as I remember, there were occasions (maybe just 1) when Matthew
> Shears did not even use the granted travel support because he ended up
> getting funding due to his working group participation. So, to me,
> that would be the picture of more senior experience with more
> possibilities.
>
> Once more, this is just information sharing and if there are any more
> questions, just ask.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Michael Karanicolas
> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a bit confused.
>>
>> I fully understand that mentors should be very experienced - like
>> Kathy, Milton, etc. But shouldn't mentees be less experienced - people
>> who are more junior but show significant promise? Isn't that the point
>> of the mentor-mentee dynamic, or am I missing something? And we're
>> looking for a mentee here, not a mentor, right?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> *which is NOT the case
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear Michael
>>>>
>>>> We don't really have a hard line definition of mentor/mentee
>>>>
>>>> Previous mentors have always been Chairs, Co-chairs or Rapporteurs of
>>>> working groups.
>>>> Also have had way much more than 2 years of engagement with NCUC,
>>>> which is the case of the applications here.
>>>> Through the archives you'll see mentors being Kathy Kleinman, Milton
>>>> Mueller and other veteran NCUC members I can't remember now.
>>>>
>>>> Remember that this is an exception, these mentees will not have an
>>>> assigned mentor
>>>>
>>>> They will have to accompany veteran's activities and try to ask
>>>> questions to them whenever they are available to answer them
>>>>
>>>> This is done at this time only because we will maximize attendance of
>>>> those who need improvement in NCUC Policy Course
>>>>
>>>> These mentees may also reach out to EC for guidance
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Renata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that both Farrell and Hago seem like they are too senior for a
>>>>> mentee role, in my opinion. Of the remaining five, Olga and Shahul are
>>>>> the ones that really stand out - I think they're the only two who
>>>>> really bothered to engage with the application (and Olga in particular
>>>>> is a very strong candidate - there's a reason we almost picked her for
>>>>> the Community Onboarding slot). It's very close for me between the
>>>>> other three, but I guess I'd give it to Tomslin, who seems to have a
>>>>> bit more engagement/expertise, and who is willing to cover part of the
>>>>> costs himself, which is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear EC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have until 20dec for this deliberation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Candidate Varsha Sewlal has funding to ICANN61 already so I will guide
>>>>>> her to apply for the partial funding for NCUC Policy Course
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you have 7 candidates for 3 selections as NCUC Mentees
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To aid your deliberation (and my job at tallying :) ) here's a summary
>>>>>> and you can also note your vote there
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if you note your vote there, you still need to send it to this
>>>>>> list w/ justification
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdzLs01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****Please try to deliberate asap because the sooner the candidates
>>>>>> are chosen, the sooner they can process visa, cheaper plane ticket
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
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