[NCUC-EC] NCUC ICANN61 Mentee

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

Hi Michael

No, we always funded 2 members to go to meetings. In average, as far
as I remember.

It is just recently that this travel support process changed to what
is now NCUC Fellowship program. (1 funding for a mentor and 1 for a
mentee)

Not more than 1 year, I think.

So Matthew was not analyzed in light of any of those capacities, as
well as Ayden.

Best,

Renata


On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Michael Karanicolas
<mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry - just a small point of clarification - are you saying Matthew
> Shears was funded as a mentee? And this was relatively recent?
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Michael
>>
>> We are looking for mentees, yes.
>> However, as competition for fellowship and travel support is
>> increasing, our mentees are starting to show much more work.
>> So you have here an application of someone who did participate in
>> Public Comments and is advocating NCUC positions in working group
>> lists.
>> But this is person is an entry-level appointment position without
>> funding (which is the case of PC NCSG).
>> So even if this person had more experience in working groups,
>> considering them senior (as Matthew Shears was, for instance), in my
>> view, would be too much.
>> Maybe intermediate experience? Which is best than junior, imho.
>> The best world would be our mentees gather at least some experience
>> _before_ we grant them the travel support.
>>
>> But, as I said, I can only share information with you, from past
>> scenarios of PC NCSG applying to this specific type of travel support.
>> As far as I remember, there were occasions (maybe just 1) when Matthew
>> Shears did not even use the granted travel support because he ended up
>> getting funding due to his working group participation. So, to me,
>> that would be the picture of more senior experience with more
>> possibilities.
>>
>> Once more, this is just information sharing and if there are any more
>> questions, just ask.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am a bit confused.
>>>
>>> I fully understand that mentors should be very experienced - like
>>> Kathy, Milton, etc. But shouldn't mentees be less experienced - people
>>> who are more junior but show significant promise? Isn't that the point
>>> of the mentor-mentee dynamic, or am I missing something? And we're
>>> looking for a mentee here, not a mentor, right?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> *which is NOT the case
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't really have a hard line definition of mentor/mentee
>>>>>
>>>>> Previous mentors have always been Chairs, Co-chairs or Rapporteurs of
>>>>> working groups.
>>>>> Also have had way much more than 2 years of engagement with NCUC,
>>>>> which is the case of the applications here.
>>>>> Through the archives you'll see mentors being Kathy Kleinman, Milton
>>>>> Mueller and other veteran NCUC members I can't remember now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that this is an exception, these mentees will not have an
>>>>> assigned mentor
>>>>>
>>>>> They will have to accompany veteran's activities and try to ask
>>>>> questions to them whenever they are available to answer them
>>>>>
>>>>> This is done at this time only because we will maximize attendance of
>>>>> those who need improvement in NCUC Policy Course
>>>>>
>>>>> These mentees may also reach out to EC for guidance
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Renata
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that both Farrell and Hago seem like they are too senior for a
>>>>>> mentee role, in my opinion. Of the remaining five, Olga and Shahul are
>>>>>> the ones that really stand out - I think they're the only two who
>>>>>> really bothered to engage with the application (and Olga in particular
>>>>>> is a very strong candidate - there's a reason we almost picked her for
>>>>>> the Community Onboarding slot). It's very close for me between the
>>>>>> other three, but I guess I'd give it to Tomslin, who seems to have a
>>>>>> bit more engagement/expertise, and who is willing to cover part of the
>>>>>> costs himself, which is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear EC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have until 20dec for this deliberation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Candidate Varsha Sewlal has funding to ICANN61 already so I will guide
>>>>>>> her to apply for the partial funding for NCUC Policy Course
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you have 7 candidates for 3 selections as NCUC Mentees
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To aid your deliberation (and my job at tallying :) ) here's a summary
>>>>>>> and you can also note your vote there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even if you note your vote there, you still need to send it to this
>>>>>>> list w/ justification
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdzLs01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****Please try to deliberate asap because the sooner the candidates
>>>>>>> are chosen, the sooner they can process visa, cheaper plane ticket
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
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