[NCUC-EC] NCUC ICANN61 Mentee

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

I'd also add that PC NCSG has obligations, such as accompany ICANN
policy decisions closely and participate in discussions/consultations
on NCUC and NCSG lists

That also weighed in giving PC NCSG members travel support before.
Without being at the meetings, they would lose out on some of the
discussions. That would end up hindering full Constituency
participation in important discussions.

However, if a PC NCSG member is deemed inactive or not really
communicating with Constituency, it could be the case he is not
considered for travel funding or any other support. PC NCSG Chair,
however, would be asked to give advice in this case. I don't remember
that happening, all PC NCSG before were fairly active.

As this is a new appointment, we can only hope this PC NCSG member
remains active and it is up to EC to decide in sending the appointee
to the meeting or not for participation, analyzing his previous work.

Best,

Renata



On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
<raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry Bruna, just saw your email, I'm guessing the same answer I've just given
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Michael
>>
>> We are looking for mentees, yes.
>> However, as competition for fellowship and travel support is
>> increasing, our mentees are starting to show much more work.
>> So you have here an application of someone who did participate in
>> Public Comments and is advocating NCUC positions in working group
>> lists.
>> But this is person is an entry-level appointment position without
>> funding (which is the case of PC NCSG).
>> So even if this person had more experience in working groups,
>> considering them senior (as Matthew Shears was, for instance), in my
>> view, would be too much.
>> Maybe intermediate experience? Which is best than junior, imho.
>> The best world would be our mentees gather at least some experience
>> _before_ we grant them the travel support.
>>
>> But, as I said, I can only share information with you, from past
>> scenarios of PC NCSG applying to this specific type of travel support.
>> As far as I remember, there were occasions (maybe just 1) when Matthew
>> Shears did not even use the granted travel support because he ended up
>> getting funding due to his working group participation. So, to me,
>> that would be the picture of more senior experience with more
>> possibilities.
>>
>> Once more, this is just information sharing and if there are any more
>> questions, just ask.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am a bit confused.
>>>
>>> I fully understand that mentors should be very experienced - like
>>> Kathy, Milton, etc. But shouldn't mentees be less experienced - people
>>> who are more junior but show significant promise? Isn't that the point
>>> of the mentor-mentee dynamic, or am I missing something? And we're
>>> looking for a mentee here, not a mentor, right?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> *which is NOT the case
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't really have a hard line definition of mentor/mentee
>>>>>
>>>>> Previous mentors have always been Chairs, Co-chairs or Rapporteurs of
>>>>> working groups.
>>>>> Also have had way much more than 2 years of engagement with NCUC,
>>>>> which is the case of the applications here.
>>>>> Through the archives you'll see mentors being Kathy Kleinman, Milton
>>>>> Mueller and other veteran NCUC members I can't remember now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that this is an exception, these mentees will not have an
>>>>> assigned mentor
>>>>>
>>>>> They will have to accompany veteran's activities and try to ask
>>>>> questions to them whenever they are available to answer them
>>>>>
>>>>> This is done at this time only because we will maximize attendance of
>>>>> those who need improvement in NCUC Policy Course
>>>>>
>>>>> These mentees may also reach out to EC for guidance
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Renata
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that both Farrell and Hago seem like they are too senior for a
>>>>>> mentee role, in my opinion. Of the remaining five, Olga and Shahul are
>>>>>> the ones that really stand out - I think they're the only two who
>>>>>> really bothered to engage with the application (and Olga in particular
>>>>>> is a very strong candidate - there's a reason we almost picked her for
>>>>>> the Community Onboarding slot). It's very close for me between the
>>>>>> other three, but I guess I'd give it to Tomslin, who seems to have a
>>>>>> bit more engagement/expertise, and who is willing to cover part of the
>>>>>> costs himself, which is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear EC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have until 20dec for this deliberation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Candidate Varsha Sewlal has funding to ICANN61 already so I will guide
>>>>>>> her to apply for the partial funding for NCUC Policy Course
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you have 7 candidates for 3 selections as NCUC Mentees
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To aid your deliberation (and my job at tallying :) ) here's a summary
>>>>>>> and you can also note your vote there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even if you note your vote there, you still need to send it to this
>>>>>>> list w/ justification
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdzLs01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****Please try to deliberate asap because the sooner the candidates
>>>>>>> are chosen, the sooner they can process visa, cheaper plane ticket
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
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