[NCUC-EC] IGF Travel support call - Applications

Thu Oct 20 07:56:45 CEST 2016

Thanks Tapani, I guess that fix the problem :)
I will send the announcement with selection of Tatiana and Rachel.

Rafik

2016-10-20 14:31 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>:

> Hi,
>
> I can make this easier for you: Marilia is a speaker in NCSG's
> workshop and it turns out Aarti Bhavana is getting to IGF with ISOC
> funds, so I'm going to give her travel slot to Marilia.
>
> Those slots are for the workshop and belong to workshop speakers and
> organizers, and almost all others have already confirmed they're
> already funded, so this is an easy decision.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Oct 20 14:04, Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > since we are handling in many occasion travel allocations, we have to be
> > consistent on how we make decision and respecting the rules we set to be
> > fair to our membership . we got several applications in this case and we
> > cannot honestly make an exception. as raised by Farzaneh, Alexandre
> > application was not even discussed while it is similar.
> >
> > we are trying to support our members to attend IGF to help us for
> outreach
> > there but there is no obligation for NCUC to do so. we even using NCUC
> > funding for exceptional case.
> >
> > I only see one opposition to my suggestion and mostly support so I will
> go
> > ahead with the selection of Tatiana for ICANN travel slot and partial
> > funding to Rachel in order for them to start preparation. I will make
> > announcement today.
> >
> > lets move on here since we have urgent stuff to handle like charter
> review
> > and election.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> >
> >
> > 2016-10-19 21:21 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Dear Joao,
> > >
> > > Alexandre Gonzalez, also from Brazil, applied late for IGF travel
> slot. He
> > > was invited to an ICANN related workshop and his profile looks
> promising.
> > > If we consider Marillia's application, surely we have to consider
> > > Alexandre's too. It will be unfair to him.
> > >
> > > Marillia is my good colleague, has done a lot for NCUC, is a councilor,
> > > has had important roles at IGF processes, but I really can't support
> late
> > > applications. Especially because we have another person who applied
> late.
> > >
> > > Marillia is resourceful and I really hope she can find ways to attend
> IGF.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Farzaneh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 October 2016 at 13:51, Joao Carlos Caribe <
> caribe at entropia.blog.br>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Grace,
> > >>
> > >> I am defending the interests of my region, and NCUC, I do not know how
> > >> much beyond the deadline was the submission of Marilia, but I think it
> > >> would not be the first precedent, sometimes a precedent may favor good
> > >> decisions, rules are made to comply, but it is often wiser to renege
> when
> > >> the overall benefit is greater.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Joăo Carlos R. Caribé
> > >> Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
> > >> NETmundial Initiative Counselor
> > >> ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member
> > >>
> > >> http://about.me/caribe
> > >>
> > >> Skype joaocaribe
> > >> <+55(021)%209%208761%201967>+55(021) 9 8761 1967
> > >> <+55(021)%209%208761%201967>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Em 19 de out de 2016, às 09:38, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> >
> > >> escreveu:
> > >>
> > >> Joao
> > >>
> > >> Marilla's application was submitted after the deadline. We do not
> want to
> > >> set a precedent where we bend rules because we want some people
> supported.
> > >> I think the decision was communicated and two applicants picked. Lets
> not
> > >> bend down our own rules.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rgds
> > >>
> > >> Grace
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> *From:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Joao
> > >> Carlos Caribe <caribe at entropia.blog.br>
> > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:33 AM
> > >> *To:* Rafik Dammak
> > >> *Cc:* NCUC-EC
> > >> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] IGF Travel support call - Applications
> > >>
> > >> Rafik,
> > >>
> > >> I insist on support Marilia, because:
> > >>
> > >> 1) Her work is valuable for NCUC core values, and I'm sure she would
> > >> represent us.
> > >> 2) Under the sphere of ICANN LAC retreat, because the meetings that
> was
> > >> canceled on the region, open a precedent for preference for this
> region.
> > >> 3) Because the political moment we are facing at Brazil, we need a
> strong
> > >> representation on international foruns.
> > >>
> > >> By this I claim the EC members and you to consider support Marilia.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Joăo Carlos R. Caribé
> > >> Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
> > >> NETmundial Initiative Counselor
> > >> ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member
> > >>
> > >> http://about.me/caribe
> > >> <http://about.me/caribe>
> > >> João Carlos Caribé on about.me <http://about.me/caribe>
> > >> about.me
> > >> João Carlos uses about.me to show people what matters most to them.
> > >>
> > >> Skype joaocaribe
> > >> <+55(021)%209%208761%201967>+55(021) 9 8761 1967
> > >> <+55(021)%209%208761%201967>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Em 18 de out de 2016, às 22:38, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> > >> escreveu:
> > >>
> > >> hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> it seems there is no clear consensus about accepting applications
> after
> > >> deadline and we have to cautious about not setting precedent. we
> wanted to
> > >> help here and we created some expectations, however, we have to be
> mindful
> > >> about the constraints and limits for NCUC.
> > >>
> > >> Tatiana has  a clear support and so she should get the ICANN travel
> slot.
> > >> for NCUC support slot, I suggest Rachel.
> > >> unless a strong objection in the coming hours, I will announce those
> > >> names to the NCUC list. I will follow-up later with them with regard
> to
> > >> NCUC plans for IGF. we will discuss later about outreach in IGF,
> including
> > >> the CS pre-event.
> > >>
> > >> I do agree about reaching to applicants and encouraging them. we
> > >> discussed this before but we didn't really follow-up. we need to
> draft some
> > >> responses and do so in order to engage them. We can have some
> template that
> > >> we can tweak and customize , @Maryam can you draft a template quickly?
> > >>
> > >> I guess that some expect the chair to do so, but I also see that
> regional
> > >> EC members have a role here to follow-up and reach the applicants from
> > >> their respective regions.
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Rafik
> > >>
> > >> 2016-10-18 23:35 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> I don't know. I let the chair decide. He can break the tie anyway.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 18 October 2016 at 16:34, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Someone pointed out to me that Marilia’s application came after the
> > >>>> deadline. Are we considering it eligible?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --MM
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *From:* NCUC-EC [mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] *On Behalf
> Of *João
> > >>>> Carlos Rebello Caribé
> > >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:30 AM
> > >>>> *To:* Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> > >>>> *Cc:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] IGF Travel support call - Applications
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I support Milton's selection, even Marilia.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Em 18/10/2016, às 02:57, farzaneh badii escreveu:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Having reviewed all the applications I would rank the top four thus:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1.       Tatiana Tropina
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2.       Marilia Maciel
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 3.       Rachel Pollack
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 4.       Carlos Vera
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tropina is involved in quite a few sessions and has been extremely
> > >>>> active. If Marilia is considered eligible despite late application
> I give
> > >>>> her a slight edge over Rachel because she is NCUC officer and speaks
> > >>>> Spanish. Local connection is also why I consider Vera to be a good
> > >>>> application. Also we need some gender diversity ;-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> João Carlos R. Caribé
> > >>>> Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
> > >>>> NETmundial Initiative Counselor
> > >>>> ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://about.me/caribe
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Skype joaocaribe
> > >>>> +55(021) 9 8761 1967
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