[NCUC-EC] IGF Travel support call - Applications
João Carlos Rebello Caribé
caribe at entropia.blog.br
Sun Oct 23 04:31:22 CEST 2016
Perfect!
Em 20/10/2016, às 03:31, Tapani Tarvainen escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> I can make this easier for you: Marilia is a speaker in NCSG's
> workshop and it turns out Aarti Bhavana is getting to IGF with ISOC
> funds, so I'm going to give her travel slot to Marilia.
>
> Those slots are for the workshop and belong to workshop speakers and
> organizers, and almost all others have already confirmed they're
> already funded, so this is an easy decision.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Oct 20 14:04, Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> since we are handling in many occasion travel allocations, we have to be
>> consistent on how we make decision and respecting the rules we set to be
>> fair to our membership . we got several applications in this case and we
>> cannot honestly make an exception. as raised by Farzaneh, Alexandre
>> application was not even discussed while it is similar.
>>
>> we are trying to support our members to attend IGF to help us for outreach
>> there but there is no obligation for NCUC to do so. we even using NCUC
>> funding for exceptional case.
>>
>> I only see one opposition to my suggestion and mostly support so I will go
>> ahead with the selection of Tatiana for ICANN travel slot and partial
>> funding to Rachel in order for them to start preparation. I will make
>> announcement today.
>>
>> lets move on here since we have urgent stuff to handle like charter review
>> and election.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-10-19 21:21 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear Joao,
>>>
>>> Alexandre Gonzalez, also from Brazil, applied late for IGF travel slot. He
>>> was invited to an ICANN related workshop and his profile looks promising.
>>> If we consider Marillia's application, surely we have to consider
>>> Alexandre's too. It will be unfair to him.
>>>
>>> Marillia is my good colleague, has done a lot for NCUC, is a councilor,
>>> has had important roles at IGF processes, but I really can't support late
>>> applications. Especially because we have another person who applied late.
>>>
>>> Marillia is resourceful and I really hope she can find ways to attend IGF.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 October 2016 at 13:51, Joao Carlos Caribe <caribe at entropia.blog.br>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Grace,
>>>>
>>>> I am defending the interests of my region, and NCUC, I do not know how
>>>> much beyond the deadline was the submission of Marilia, but I think it
>>>> would not be the first precedent, sometimes a precedent may favor good
>>>> decisions, rules are made to comply, but it is often wiser to renege when
>>>> the overall benefit is greater.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joăo Carlos R. Caribé
>>>> Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
>>>> NETmundial Initiative Counselor
>>>> ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member
>>>>
>>>> http://about.me/caribe
>>>>
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>>>> <+55(021)%209%208761%201967>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 19 de out de 2016, às 09:38, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Joao
>>>>
>>>> Marilla's application was submitted after the deadline. We do not want to
>>>> set a precedent where we bend rules because we want some people supported.
>>>> I think the decision was communicated and two applicants picked. Lets not
>>>> bend down our own rules.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rgds
>>>>
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Joao
>>>> Carlos Caribe <caribe at entropia.blog.br>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:33 AM
>>>> *To:* Rafik Dammak
>>>> *Cc:* NCUC-EC
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] IGF Travel support call - Applications
>>>>
>>>> Rafik,
>>>>
>>>> I insist on support Marilia, because:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Her work is valuable for NCUC core values, and I'm sure she would
>>>> represent us.
>>>> 2) Under the sphere of ICANN LAC retreat, because the meetings that was
>>>> canceled on the region, open a precedent for preference for this region.
>>>> 3) Because the political moment we are facing at Brazil, we need a strong
>>>> representation on international foruns.
>>>>
>>>> By this I claim the EC members and you to consider support Marilia.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joăo Carlos R. Caribé
>>>> Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
>>>> NETmundial Initiative Counselor
>>>> ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member
>>>>
>>>> http://about.me/caribe
>>>> <http://about.me/caribe>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 18 de out de 2016, às 22:38, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> it seems there is no clear consensus about accepting applications after
>>>> deadline and we have to cautious about not setting precedent. we wanted to
>>>> help here and we created some expectations, however, we have to be mindful
>>>> about the constraints and limits for NCUC.
>>>>
>>>> Tatiana has a clear support and so she should get the ICANN travel slot.
>>>> for NCUC support slot, I suggest Rachel.
>>>> unless a strong objection in the coming hours, I will announce those
>>>> names to the NCUC list. I will follow-up later with them with regard to
>>>> NCUC plans for IGF. we will discuss later about outreach in IGF, including
>>>> the CS pre-event.
>>>>
>>>> I do agree about reaching to applicants and encouraging them. we
>>>> discussed this before but we didn't really follow-up. we need to draft some
>>>> responses and do so in order to engage them. We can have some template that
>>>> we can tweak and customize , @Maryam can you draft a template quickly?
>>>>
>>>> I guess that some expect the chair to do so, but I also see that regional
>>>> EC members have a role here to follow-up and reach the applicants from
>>>> their respective regions.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2016-10-18 23:35 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know. I let the chair decide. He can break the tie anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 October 2016 at 16:34, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone pointed out to me that Marilia’s application came after the
>>>>>> deadline. Are we considering it eligible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --MM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* NCUC-EC [mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] *On Behalf Of *João
>>>>>> Carlos Rebello Caribé
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:30 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Cc:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] IGF Travel support call - Applications
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I support Milton's selection, even Marilia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 18/10/2016, às 02:57, farzaneh badii escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having reviewed all the applications I would rank the top four thus:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Tatiana Tropina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Marilia Maciel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Rachel Pollack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. Carlos Vera
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tropina is involved in quite a few sessions and has been extremely
>>>>>> active. If Marilia is considered eligible despite late application I give
>>>>>> her a slight edge over Rachel because she is NCUC officer and speaks
>>>>>> Spanish. Local connection is also why I consider Vera to be a good
>>>>>> application. Also we need some gender diversity ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> João Carlos R. Caribé
>>>>>> Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
>>>>>> NETmundial Initiative Counselor
>>>>>> ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://about.me/caribe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype joaocaribe
>>>>>> +55(021) 9 8761 1967
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