[NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January
Milton L Mueller
mueller at syr.edu
Mon Dec 22 14:49:39 CET 2014
Let’s invite L. Gordon Crovitch ;-)
I’d like to get my hands on him….
From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January
Hi,
I guess the list will be shrinked somehow :) I don't think we can consider ISOC as civil society for example. we can try to invite those folks (anyway nobody talked about inviting CP80 anyway) and see if they can confirm their attendance. even if we don't expect CFR, heritage or Hudson to join us, at least we can let them and others know there is already group of CS people involved for years in ICANN and having expertise. just recall the letter sent about IANA transition (http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2014/oti_sends_letter_to_congress_on_the_dotcom_bill_and_the_iana_transition-107726)
as names , Joy suggested to check with APC members in USA, Kathy suggested Rebecca recommendations (and she wrote about NCUC before) . I can suggest Susan Aaronson .
we have 3 weeks before this meeting and I would expect us to have some points to present to those folks.
what would interest DC folks?
Rafik
2014-12-16 17:47 GMT+09:00 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>:
Hi Milton
Thanks for the input, sorry you’re shocked. As I said, we’re unlikely to be able fit all the all the people below in the room with us, and people are providing other names as well. So I was suggesting we prioritize and invite in tranches, in which case I’d think we’d start with people who might conceivably be open to getting involved with us, which is sort of the purpose of an outreach meeting. But I don’t care enough either way to debate it with you, so we could instead invite broadly and whoever RSVPs first and gets into the room, that’s who we have. Send any names you like from Cato, Heritage, CP80, House Republican staff, whatever, and I’ll pass their details to ICANN for the invite blast.
Bill
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu<mailto:mueller at syr.edu>> wrote:
Bill.
It’s really wrong and even shocking for you to suggest dropping people from the list because you don’t like their ideology. I don’t see anyone on that list who doesn’t share some core values of NCUC regarding internet freedom.
Either we are the noncommercial stakeholders group or we are something else. If the people involved are involved in nonprofit advocacy groups and are eligible for NCUC membership they should be invited, full stop.
--MM
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Subject: [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January
Hello
As we’ve discussed, there will be an NCUC civil society outreach meeting in DC the morning of Wed. 14 January, after the NCPH meeting. Probably we’ll do 10-1pm, we’ll see. Think it will be in some law office, the ICANN office is not available. More on that later.
Again, for the covered travelers, if you cannot get an afternoon or evening flight out on the 14th, ICANN will cover your hotel that night. Once Constituency Travel starts to get in touch on this and you’ve worked out your itinerary, please let me and Rob Hoggarth know if you will be needing hotel for that night.
I’d like to do something similar to what we tried at the LA outreach meeting, but better—have a number of people teed up to speak 3 minutes each on some of the issues we work on, hold all Q&A until the end and then go to an integrative freewheeling discussion. Since the folks we will be inviting are generally pretty up to speed beltway mavens, we won’t need to do a lot of what is ICANN introductory nonsense…just get to what we’re doing and then have discussion and say if you’re into knowing more or maybe even joining please be in touch. We’ll sort this out going forward.
Below is the list of people that the ICANN DC office invited to meet with Fadi when he was in DC in January for the State of the Net Conference. A number of these it’d be good to invite again, but some I’d drop, e.g. people from conservative think tanks and such who neither share our views nor are going to get involved with us. I don’t know exactly how many bodies the room we’ll have can accommodate, am waiting for an answer on that from Rob and Chris, but am guessing we’d want a mix like a dozen of us and two dozen external folks?
Depending on the numbers, we may not be able to accommodate all the bodies we can name, or might have to do it in waves, i.e. invite a first tranche and if some say no then invite others. We’ll figure it out. What I want to know now is, are there DC public interest activists and friendly analysts you can think of who are not listed and might conceivably be interested in meeting with us to hear what we’re into etc? If so, please send me their names, affiliations and email addresses to fold into the list, and then we’ll sort out later who’s in our first tranche etc.
Thanks
Bill
1. Brigner Paul Internet Society (ISOC) Regional Director North America Bureau
2. Solomon Brett Access Executive Director
3. Kimmelman Gene Public Knowledge President
4. Beach Tim Georgetown Director, Program in Science, Technology, and International Affairs
5. Hoffman Lance George Washington Director, Computer Science Department
6. Zaychenko Elizaveta American Enterprise Institute Tech Policy Intern
7. Eisenach Jeffrey American Enterprise Institute Director, Center for Internet, Communications, and Technology Policy
8. Nojeim Gregory Center for Democracy and Technology Director, Project on Freedom, Security & Technology
9. Lewis James Center for Strategic and International Studies Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
10. DeNardis Laura American University Professor, School of Communications
11. Lordan Tim Internet Education Foundation Executive Director
12. Burger Eric Georgetown Research Professor of Computer Science and Director, Georgetown Center for Secure Communications
13. Dourado Eli George Mason Research Fellow, Tech Policy, Mercatus Center, George Mason Univ.
14. Levin Blair Aspen Institute Fellow, Aspen Institute
15. Atkinson Robert ITIF President, ITIF
16. Brown Kathryn ISOC CEO, ISOC
17. Kornbluh Karen CFR Senior Fellow for Digital Policy
18. West Darrell Brookings Vice President and Director, Governance Studies; Founding Director, Center for Technology Innovation
19. O'Connor Nuala CDT President & CEO
20. McDowell Robert Hudson Institute Visiting Fellow (and 5th panel member)
21. Lenard Thomas Technology Policy Institute President
22. Maciel Marilia Center for Technology and Society, Getulio Vargas Foundation Project Leader/Researcher/Assistant Professor of IP Law
23. Tim Maurer Open Technology Institute
24. Kehl Danielle New America Foundation
25. Sascha Meinrath New America Foundation
26. Holmes Wilson Fight for the Future
27. Pedro Abramovay Open Society Foundations
28. Yeh Jennifer Free Press Policy Counsel
29. Craig Aaron Free Press
30. Matt Wood Free Press
31. Rebecca MacKinnon New America and GNI
32. Catalina Botero OAS Special Rappourter
33. Kilic Burcu Public Citizen
34. Cerda Alberto Derechos Digitales and Georgetown Univ.
35. Daniel Weitzner MIT
36. Vasdev Samhir World Bank Innovation and Design Consultant, Open Technology Alliance
37. Pohl Rachel Aspen Institute
38. Rossini Carolina Public Knowledge
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