[NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Mon Dec 22 14:55:11 CET 2014


you mean Gordon Crovitz? be zen Milton :)

Rafik

2014-12-22 22:49 GMT+09:00 Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>:

>  Let’s invite L. Gordon Crovitch ;-)
>
> I’d like to get my hands on him….
>
>
>
> *From:* Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 7:14 AM
> *To:* William Drake
> *Cc:* Milton L Mueller; Matt Shears; Walid AL-SAQAF; Marilia Maciel;
> Exec. Comm; Stephanie Perrin; Amr Elsadr; Edward Morris; Avri Doria; Kathy
> Kleiman; Joy Liddicoat; David Cake
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting
> in DC Wed. 13 January
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I guess the list will be shrinked somehow :) I don't think we can consider
> ISOC as civil society for example. we can try to invite those folks (anyway
> nobody talked about inviting CP80 anyway) and see if they can confirm their
> attendance. even if we don't expect CFR, heritage or  Hudson to join us, at
> least we can let them and others know there is already group of CS people
> involved for years in ICANN and having expertise. just recall the letter
> sent about IANA transition (
> http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2014/oti_sends_letter_to_congress_on_the_dotcom_bill_and_the_iana_transition-107726
> )
>
>
>
> as names , Joy suggested to check with APC members in USA, Kathy suggested
> Rebecca recommendations (and she wrote about NCUC before) . I can suggest
> Susan Aaronson .
>
>
>
> we have 3 weeks before this meeting and I would expect us to have some
> points to present to those folks.
>
> what would interest DC folks?
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-12-16 17:47 GMT+09:00 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
>
>  Hi Milton
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, sorry you’re shocked. As I said, we’re unlikely to
> be able fit all the all the people below in the room with us, and people
> are providing other names as well.  So I was suggesting we prioritize and
> invite in tranches, in which case I’d think we’d start with people who
> might conceivably be open to getting involved with us, which is sort of the
> purpose of an outreach meeting.  But I don’t care enough either way to
> debate it with you, so we could instead invite broadly and whoever RSVPs
> first and gets into the room, that’s who we have.  Send any names you like
> from Cato, Heritage, CP80, House Republican staff, whatever, and I’ll pass
> their details to ICANN for the invite blast.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>   On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
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>
> Bill.
>
> It’s really wrong and even shocking for you to suggest dropping people
> from the list because you don’t like their ideology. I don’t see anyone on
> that list who doesn’t share some core values of NCUC regarding internet
> freedom.
>
> Either we are the noncommercial stakeholders group or we are something
> else. If the people involved are involved in nonprofit advocacy groups and
> are eligible for NCUC membership they should be invited, full stop.
>
>
>
> --MM
>
>
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> *From:* ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [
> mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *William Drake
> *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 9:20 AM
> *To:* Exec. Comm
> *Cc:* Matt Shears; Marilia Maciel; Stephanie Perrin; Amr Elsadr; Avri
> Doria; Edward Morris; Kathy Kleiman; Joy Liddicoat; David Cake
> *Subject:* [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC
> Wed. 13 January
>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> As we’ve discussed, there will be an NCUC civil society outreach meeting
> in DC the morning of Wed. 14 January, after the NCPH meeting.  Probably
> we’ll do 10-1pm, we’ll see.  Think it will be in some law office, the ICANN
> office is not available. More on that later.
>
>
>
> Again, for the covered travelers, if you cannot get an afternoon or
> evening flight out on the 14th, ICANN will cover your hotel that night.
> Once Constituency Travel starts to get in touch on this and you’ve worked
> out your itinerary, please let me and Rob Hoggarth know if you will be
> needing hotel for that night.
>
>
>
> I’d like to do something similar to what we tried at the LA outreach
> meeting, but better—have a number of people teed up to speak 3 minutes each
> on some of the issues we work on, hold all Q&A until the end and then go to
> an integrative freewheeling discussion.  Since the folks we will be
> inviting are generally pretty up to speed beltway mavens, we won’t need to
> do a lot of what is ICANN introductory nonsense…just get to what we’re
> doing and then have discussion and say if you’re into knowing more or maybe
> even joining please be in touch.  We’ll sort this out going forward.
>
>
>
> Below is the list of people that the ICANN DC office invited to meet with
> Fadi when he was in DC in January for the State of the Net Conference.  A
> number of these it’d be good to invite again, but some I’d drop, e.g.
> people from conservative think tanks and such who neither share our views
> nor are going to get involved with us.  I don’t know exactly how many
> bodies the room we’ll have can accommodate, am waiting for an answer on
> that from Rob and Chris, but am guessing we’d want a mix like a dozen of us
> and two dozen external folks?
>
>
>
> Depending on the numbers, we may not be able to accommodate all the bodies
> we can name, or might have to do it in waves, i.e. invite a first tranche
> and if some say no then invite others.  We’ll figure it out.  What I want
> to know now is, are there DC public interest activists and friendly
> analysts you can think of who are not listed and might conceivably be
> interested in meeting with us to hear what we’re into etc?  If so, please
> send me their names, affiliations and email addresses to fold into the
> list, and then we’ll sort out later who’s in our first tranche etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>    1. Brigner            Paul     Internet Society
>    (ISOC)         Regional Director North America Bureau
>    2. Solomon          Brett    Access Executive Director
>    3. Kimmelman     Gene    Public Knowledge      President
>    4. Beach  Tim      Georgetown    Director, Program in Science,
>    Technology, and International Affairs
>    5. Hoffman         Lance  George Washington    Director, Computer
>    Science Department
>    6. Zaychenko      Elizaveta         American Enterprise Institute Tech
>    Policy Intern
>    7. Eisenach          Jeffrey American Enterprise Institute Director,
>    Center for Internet, Communications, and Technology Policy
>    8. Nojeim Gregory           Center for Democracy and
>    Technology          Director, Project on Freedom, Security & Technology
>    9. Lewis  James   Center for Strategic and International
>    Studies           Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
>    10. DeNardis       Laura   American University   Professor, School of
>    Communications
>    11. Lordan           Tim      Internet Education
>    Foundation          Executive Director
>    12. Burger           Eric      Georgetown    Research Professor of
>    Computer Science and Director, Georgetown Center for Secure Communications
>    13. Dourado        Eli        George Mason Research Fellow, Tech
>    Policy, Mercatus Center, George Mason Univ.
>    14. Levin Blair    Aspen Institute           Fellow, Aspen Institute
>    15. Atkinson        Robert ITIF     President, ITIF
>    16. Brown           Kathryn           ISOC   CEO, ISOC
>    17. Kornbluh       Karen  CFR    Senior Fellow for Digital Policy
>    18. West  Darrell Brookings        Vice President and Director,
>    Governance Studies; Founding Director, Center for Technology Innovation
>    19. O'Connor       Nuala   CDT    President & CEO
>    20. McDowell     Robert Hudson Institute         Visiting Fellow (and
>    5th panel member)
>    21. Lenard           Thomas            Technology Policy
>    Institute    President
>    22. Maciel            Marilia Center for Technology and Society,
>    Getulio Vargas Foundation      Project Leader/Researcher/Assistant
>    Professor of IP Law
>    23. Tim Maurer                Open Technology Institute
>    24. Kehl   Danielle           New America Foundation
>    25. Sascha Meinrath                    New America Foundation
>    26. Holmes Wilson                      Fight for the Future
>    27. Pedro Abramovay                 Open Society Foundations
>    28. Yeh    Jennifer           Free Press        Policy Counsel
>    29. Craig Aaron               Free Press
>    30. Matt Wood                Free Press
>    31. Rebecca MacKinnon             New America and GNI
>    32. Catalina Botero                     OAS Special Rappourter
>    33. Kilic   Burcu  Public Citizen
>    34. Cerda Alberto            Derechos Digitales and Georgetown
>    Univ.
>    35. Daniel Weitzner                    MIT
>    36. Vasdev          Samhir World Bank    Innovation and Design
>    Consultant, Open Technology Alliance
>    37. Pohl   Rachel Aspen Institute
>    38. Rossini           Carolina           Public Knowledge
>
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