[NCUC-EC] liquid democracy etc

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 08:58:45 CEST 2014


Hi Niels,

Thanks for the comment and feedback. it was brainstorming on how to engage
our members more on policy discussion, to inform them and let them
participate in the process, not only in mailing list.
Brenden suggested that we can use adhocracy at least to introduce the
policy topic, attach our comment/statement, getting people
feedback/vote/endorsement .
it is still at idea level but I would like to start with test for NCSG to
discuss topic and learn from that experience if we can use the tool,  make
some improvements or just try to find another solution.
I won't go in trying and having many tools. we have already a wiki space
for documenting and tracking, which need more updates and editing ncsg.is
what do you think :)?

Best Regards,

Rafik


2014-03-25 17:38 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org>:

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> Hi Brenden,
>
> I have been in various decision making processes where we've been
> working with tools like Liquid Feedback and Loomio, but also with
> wikis (mediawiki, redmine), platforms like Lorea/Elgg, github and pads.
>
> Different groups have different preferences. And behavior change is as
> hard as always. Many people organize on Facebook or mailinglists,
> simply because that is what they are used to. Getting people to change
> their behavior is not easy. The migration process needs a lot of
> attention, (testing, getting buy-in, phasing in new tool, phasing
> out/replacing old tool, evaluating, etc)
>
> Do I understand correctly that you would like to use these tools for
> NCUC? For what specific purpose? Voting? Delegation? Collaboration?
>
> Best,
>
> Niels ten Oever
> Acting Head of Digital
>
> Article 19
> www.article19.org
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> On 03/25/2014 04:48 AM, Brenden Kuerbis wrote:
> > Thanks Niels, glad to have your help! FWIW, we've been playing
> > around with https://ncsg.adhocracy.de/instance/ncsg and
> > https://ncuc.adhocracy.de/instance/ncuc I'd be very interested in
> > hearing your experiences, etc. As Stef pointed out, many of the
> > issues involve understanding the community, process and matching
> > the right tool(s).
> >
> > BK
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Niels ten Oever
> > <niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Brenden,
> >
> > I am very interested in experimenting with different methods of
> > organizing and decision making. So please include me in your
> > testing/discussion group.
> >
> > I have been working with Liquid Feedback, wikis and am very eager
> > to get organizing beyond mailing lists.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Niels
> >
> >
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