[Ec-ncuc] NCUC Appointments

Mon Dec 17 22:58:54 CET 2012

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:

>
> On 14/12/2012, at 2:41 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> As just mentioned on the Web Spaces thread, we have a bunch of
> appointments to fill, some of which will mean web site updates, most if not
> all of which are technically expired so we should act.
>
>
> NCSG Executive Committee
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-EC  Our two
> current reps are Milton and Rafik.  While tired, I believe both can be
> persuaded to stay another term, will check if that is ok with everyone?
>  They've done a great job dealing with some mind-numbing stuff.
>
>
> I'd be very happy for Milton and Rafik to continue if they wish to do so.
> They've done an excellent job taking a hard stand on membership rules.
>
>
+1

>
> NCSG Policy Committee
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-PC Was Brenden
> and Konstantinos.  I have what I think is a really good solution to
> propose: Avri and Mary.  I've spoken with both about this in the past
> couple of days and they're both prepared to step up.  We really need people
> who have deep and demonstrated engagements with the issues, are well
> organized and systematic in keeping track and following up on stuff, and
> able to work well with both the NCSG Councilors, members, other
> constituencies/stakeholders, etc down the line.  Both fit the bill and more
> in a zillion ways, plus we'd get some gender balance in our NCUC leadership
> team.  What does everyone think?
>
>
> I think Avri and Mary are great choices for a range of reasons. While KK
> and Brendan have a lot of policy expertise, I think it is becoming clearer
> that we need procedural coordination as well, especially if things like the
> 'strawman' stuff where policy debate it happening outside GNSO council
> process is going to keep happening, and Avri and Mary are two of our
> procedural experts with broad contacts.
>  (and agreement on the gender balance point)
>
>
Good suggestion, I support A & M as well if they're willing.   We can
supplement w/other expertise as needed.

> NCSG Financial Committee
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-FC  I don't know
> if Milton wants to keep at this, on top of maintaining NCUC's finances, but
> can ask.  Unless someone else is interested?one thing is for sure, both for
> NCUC and NCSG: we need to pay more attention to the ICANN budget process
> and not be so shy in our requests.  Other constituencies and stakeholder
> groups have secured a lot of resources, and with the new gTLD gazillions
> washing around the system, there's no reason we should be so principled as
> to deny ourselves support for holding meetings, doing outreach, and other
> useful functions.
>
>
> I agree that we need to pay more attention to the budget process etc.
> ICANN staff have tended to push this on to the chairs by default, and the
> chair already has plenty of other demands on their time, and this is one
> area that can be separated off.
>  I will note that finding someone who can remain attentive and awake
> during hour long presentations from Xavier is something I found pretty
> difficult, and may require a special person. Or stimulants.
>  And we do definitely need to keep pushing for funding the way other
> groups do.
>

Perhaps this role would be appealing to a new face?  Maybe someone from the
foundation world who is generally supportive of civil society participation
in governance institutions, or an academic who studies governance of
non-profits, or civil society involvement therein?  Just thinking aloud.

Anyway, in the meantime, I'm willing to help keep tabs and advocate here as
needed.  Stimulants gladly accepted. :-) Maybe sharing some with Xavier or
members of the Board Finance Committee would liven things up.

>
> I have no useful input for ALAC liason, other than if it does go to an
> NPOC person, we will need to keep an eye on them. There are already ALAC
> people who are very keen to berate NCUC for how mean we are being to the
> nice NPOC people (Alan, notably, who scolded me for NCUC taking all the
> council slots and not sharing in Toronto), and we need to ensure that there
> is someone there to tell our side of the story.
>
>

I pretty much agree with Bills assessment on another thread of the need for
an ALAC liaison - given the current dynamics it's wasted resources.

-- Brenden

> ATRT2: Avri has put her name in for this.  One or two NPOC people have as
> well.
>
>
>  This is an SG wide appointment, but I really think this is an important
> one. The ATRT really needs someone very familiar with the details of ICANN
> process etc, and we really need a strong advocate for NCUC in there.
> The other RT teams I would be willing to consider an NPOC candidate with
> good relevant qualifications or experience, but I think we should back Avri
> strongly.
> Note that the NPOC people can, of course, apply without GNSO endorsement.
> I think there is little harm in encouraging them to do so. But I'd much
> prefer to see the NCSG GNSO endorsement spot go to Avri.
>  Cheers
>
> David
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 2:58 PM, David Cake wrote:
>
> Yes, I was the interim Chair, as I was not elected directly but selected
> from the EC to fill in when KK resigned, but Bill is the real deal.
>
> But I  think you are wrong on NomCom, Bill - we had to make our NomCom
> appointment back prior to Toronto, when the 2013 NomCom had their first
> meeting - and Rafik was selected as our NomCom rep then, and as far as I
> know there is no reason to revisit that decision.  I understand the
> confusion as there was that nonsense about whether we needed an interim
> 2012 rep complicating the issue.
> That should be reflected on the page (though NomCom rep is an EC
> appointment not a directly elected one).
>
> Another issue coming up soon is endorsement for an ATRT2 rep, though that
> is on an SG basis not Constituency.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
> On 13/12/2012, at 1:26 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi Wilson
>
>
> Thanks for the rapid response.  A couple small corrections:
>
>
> I'm chair, not interim chair, and Maria is no longer our Nomcom rep (one
> of a number of appointments we need to make---more later).
>
>
> And please call me Bill. :-)
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 21:10, Wilson Abigaba <abigabaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Drake,
>
>
> Thanks for the heads up! Wish you all the best in Dubai.
>
>
> http://ncuc.org/page/elected-officers has been updated. Could Robin or
>
> Avri update
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8945848
>
> too? I can also do it I have the appropriate rights.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Wilson
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:17 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> Greetings from Dubai.  I'm sorry I've not been in touch yet but the
> election
>
> results were announced as I was in transit here, and things have been
> rather
>
> hectic since with the WCIT negotiations, which are going painfully slow and
>
> still have many deep disagreements to sort out in very little time.  It's
>
> really difficult to say at this point whether the whole thing will collapse
>
> or not.
>
>
> Anyway, we have many things to start to sort out, and in the days ahead
> I'll
>
> start getting caught up and EC messages from me will start to inundate your
>
> inboxes.
>
>
> We need to get you on the relevant web spaces.  The first is the space
>
> maintained by ICANN for the GNSO and its subsidiary bodies.  I guess you
>
> should send the GNSO secretariat, meaning the wonderful Glen de Saint G?ry
>
> <Glen at icann.org> (copied above), photos of yourselves that can be posted
> at
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg/ncuc.
>
>
> The second is our own webspace (about which we'll need to make some
>
> decisions).  No photos there, but the list of EC members at
>
> http://ncuc.org/page/elected-officers has to get undated.  Ed and Wilson
>
> you'd expressed an interest in taking a lead on this, which I'm sure
> Brenden
>
> would appreciate as he's been doing this and many other functions solo for
>
> some time.  If you could perhaps be in touch with him (copied above) to get
>
> that started this would be very helpful.
>
>
> Have to run,
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>
> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>
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