[Ec-ncuc] NCUC Appointments

Mon Dec 17 23:17:02 CET 2012

If they can continue, I will certainly agree.

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 12/17/2012 07:58 PM, Brenden Kuerbis wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 14/12/2012, at 2:41 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> As just mentioned on the Web Spaces thread, we have a bunch of
>> appointments to fill, some of which will mean web site updates, most if not
>> all of which are technically expired so we should act.
>>
>>
>> NCSG Executive Committee
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-EC  Our two
>> current reps are Milton and Rafik.  While tired, I believe both can be
>> persuaded to stay another term, will check if that is ok with everyone?
>>   They've done a great job dealing with some mind-numbing stuff.
>>
>>
>> I'd be very happy for Milton and Rafik to continue if they wish to do so.
>> They've done an excellent job taking a hard stand on membership rules.
>>
>>
> +1
>
>
>>
>> NCSG Policy Committee
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-PC Was Brenden
>> and Konstantinos.  I have what I think is a really good solution to
>> propose: Avri and Mary.  I've spoken with both about this in the past
>> couple of days and they're both prepared to step up.  We really need people
>> who have deep and demonstrated engagements with the issues, are well
>> organized and systematic in keeping track and following up on stuff, and
>> able to work well with both the NCSG Councilors, members, other
>> constituencies/stakeholders, etc down the line.  Both fit the bill and more
>> in a zillion ways, plus we'd get some gender balance in our NCUC leadership
>> team.  What does everyone think?
>>
>>
>> I think Avri and Mary are great choices for a range of reasons. While KK
>> and Brendan have a lot of policy expertise, I think it is becoming clearer
>> that we need procedural coordination as well, especially if things like the
>> 'strawman' stuff where policy debate it happening outside GNSO council
>> process is going to keep happening, and Avri and Mary are two of our
>> procedural experts with broad contacts.
>>   (and agreement on the gender balance point)
>>
>>
> Good suggestion, I support A & M as well if they're willing.   We can
> supplement w/other expertise as needed.
>
>
>
>> NCSG Financial Committee
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-FC  I don't know
>> if Milton wants to keep at this, on top of maintaining NCUC's finances, but
>> can ask.  Unless someone else is interested?one thing is for sure, both for
>> NCUC and NCSG: we need to pay more attention to the ICANN budget process
>> and not be so shy in our requests.  Other constituencies and stakeholder
>> groups have secured a lot of resources, and with the new gTLD gazillions
>> washing around the system, there's no reason we should be so principled as
>> to deny ourselves support for holding meetings, doing outreach, and other
>> useful functions.
>>
>>
>> I agree that we need to pay more attention to the budget process etc.
>> ICANN staff have tended to push this on to the chairs by default, and the
>> chair already has plenty of other demands on their time, and this is one
>> area that can be separated off.
>>   I will note that finding someone who can remain attentive and awake
>> during hour long presentations from Xavier is something I found pretty
>> difficult, and may require a special person. Or stimulants.
>>   And we do definitely need to keep pushing for funding the way other
>> groups do.
>>
>
>
> Perhaps this role would be appealing to a new face?  Maybe someone from the
> foundation world who is generally supportive of civil society participation
> in governance institutions, or an academic who studies governance of
> non-profits, or civil society involvement therein?  Just thinking aloud.
>
> Anyway, in the meantime, I'm willing to help keep tabs and advocate here as
> needed.  Stimulants gladly accepted. :-) Maybe sharing some with Xavier or
> members of the Board Finance Committee would liven things up.
>
>
>
>>
>> I have no useful input for ALAC liason, other than if it does go to an
>> NPOC person, we will need to keep an eye on them. There are already ALAC
>> people who are very keen to berate NCUC for how mean we are being to the
>> nice NPOC people (Alan, notably, who scolded me for NCUC taking all the
>> council slots and not sharing in Toronto), and we need to ensure that there
>> is someone there to tell our side of the story.
>>
>>
>
> I pretty much agree with Bills assessment on another thread of the need for
> an ALAC liaison - given the current dynamics it's wasted resources.
>
> -- Brenden
>
>
>
>> ATRT2: Avri has put her name in for this.  One or two NPOC people have as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>   This is an SG wide appointment, but I really think this is an important
>> one. The ATRT really needs someone very familiar with the details of ICANN
>> process etc, and we really need a strong advocate for NCUC in there.
>> The other RT teams I would be willing to consider an NPOC candidate with
>> good relevant qualifications or experience, but I think we should back Avri
>> strongly.
>> Note that the NPOC people can, of course, apply without GNSO endorsement.
>> I think there is little harm in encouraging them to do so. But I'd much
>> prefer to see the NCSG GNSO endorsement spot go to Avri.
>>   Cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2012, at 2:58 PM, David Cake wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I was the interim Chair, as I was not elected directly but selected
>> from the EC to fill in when KK resigned, but Bill is the real deal.
>>
>> But I  think you are wrong on NomCom, Bill - we had to make our NomCom
>> appointment back prior to Toronto, when the 2013 NomCom had their first
>> meeting - and Rafik was selected as our NomCom rep then, and as far as I
>> know there is no reason to revisit that decision.  I understand the
>> confusion as there was that nonsense about whether we needed an interim
>> 2012 rep complicating the issue.
>> That should be reflected on the page (though NomCom rep is an EC
>> appointment not a directly elected one).
>>
>> Another issue coming up soon is endorsement for an ATRT2 rep, though that
>> is on an SG basis not Constituency.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 13/12/2012, at 1:26 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>
>> Hi Wilson
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the rapid response.  A couple small corrections:
>>
>>
>> I'm chair, not interim chair, and Maria is no longer our Nomcom rep (one
>> of a number of appointments we need to make---more later).
>>
>>
>> And please call me Bill. :-)
>>
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 21:10, Wilson Abigaba <abigabaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Drake,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up! Wish you all the best in Dubai.
>>
>>
>> http://ncuc.org/page/elected-officers has been updated. Could Robin or
>>
>> Avri update
>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8945848
>>
>> too? I can also do it I have the appropriate rights.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Wilson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:17 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> Greetings from Dubai.  I'm sorry I've not been in touch yet but the
>> election
>>
>> results were announced as I was in transit here, and things have been
>> rather
>>
>> hectic since with the WCIT negotiations, which are going painfully slow and
>>
>> still have many deep disagreements to sort out in very little time.  It's
>>
>> really difficult to say at this point whether the whole thing will collapse
>>
>> or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, we have many things to start to sort out, and in the days ahead
>> I'll
>>
>> start getting caught up and EC messages from me will start to inundate your
>>
>> inboxes.
>>
>>
>> We need to get you on the relevant web spaces.  The first is the space
>>
>> maintained by ICANN for the GNSO and its subsidiary bodies.  I guess you
>>
>> should send the GNSO secretariat, meaning the wonderful Glen de Saint G?ry
>>
>> <Glen at icann.org> (copied above), photos of yourselves that can be posted
>> at
>>
>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg/ncuc.
>>
>>
>> The second is our own webspace (about which we'll need to make some
>>
>> decisions).  No photos there, but the list of EC members at
>>
>> http://ncuc.org/page/elected-officers has to get undated.  Ed and Wilson
>>
>> you'd expressed an interest in taking a lead on this, which I'm sure
>> Brenden
>>
>> would appreciate as he's been doing this and many other functions solo for
>>
>> some time.  If you could perhaps be in touch with him (copied above) to get
>>
>> that started this would be very helpful.
>>
>>
>> Have to run,
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***************************************************
>>
>> William J. Drake
>>
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>
>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>
>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>
>> william.drake at uzh.ch
>>
>> www.williamdrake.org
>>
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