[NCUC-DISCUSS] Nom Com

[farzaneh badii]

Here is what Zahid Jamil the then NomCom chair(or chair elect I can't quite
remember)said in 2018:

Zahid Jamil "So we used to do things like using a ServerMonkey approach
where basically
you had a list of candidates and we sort of rate them 1 to 5, and that
number
that then, you know, used to come say people got 5 or 4, a 3. But then you
say, well, maybe people below 3 shouldn't be looked at, you know. Why are
we looking at people below 3?
So, based on that, I guess, objective, without deliberation rating, a lot of
people would be eliminated from the process. And we were thinking there
must be a way to try and improve it. So we decided that it's probably best
to
have in-depth face-to-face meetings for the deliberations when we do
assessments and selections. We actually talk to each other. We go through
every application.
So this year, every single candidate who applies to the NomCom will get the
opportunity that their application will be reviewed and assessed by us when
ICANN
we sit together in deliberation. And I think that's a big thing. Because a
lot of
people came to us, said that, you know, and I'll honestly tell you this, a
lot of
folks said NomCom's a joke, the way you guys do things and the way we've
been treated previously, what are you doing about improving this process?
So we've taken a hard look at it." (page 9 and 10)


And here is some parts of what Rafik said in response (it is out of
context, read the transcript if you want to make a sound judgement)

Rafik Dammak: …Zahid, please listen to us. So when you have the polling,
you - I know it's
not perfect, it's not good - I mean, it's not the best way, but you have
some
tools more objective than deliberation and lobbying, because I have - I can
have champions and try to influence my fellow NomCom members. How you
can ensure that there is no bias? How you can ensure…



Link:
https://static.ptbl.co/static/attachments/169631/1521043639.pdf?1521043639

Best

Farzaneh


On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:27 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The leaders of NOMCOM in the past insisted on face 2 face meetings because
> they argued it helps them with choosing candidates better and they even
> argue that it can lead to a better diverse choice of board members (which
> is puzzling for me since they hold their meeting in DC! most diverse people
> can’t even get a visa)
>
>
> There are concerns that Face2Face meetings could lead to discrimination
> and behind the scene advocacy for a candidate.
>
> We asked the leaders at the time (i think it was 2018) why they wanted to
> have a face to face meeting (I can look up the transcript, it was in Puerto
> Rico)
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:56 AM Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Why does Nomcom insist on in-person meetings at this time? It seems
>> fabulously absurd to me. We’ve all learned that you can bring a group
>> together virtually for productive discussions; you can offer classes, you
>> can have meetings, what is the problem with doing it virtually?
>>
>>
>>
>> To be paralyzed by the inability to have in-person meetings during a
>> pandemic baffles me – am I missing something? What’s stopping you from
>> dumping the in-person meeting part and doing it virtually?
>>
>>
>>
>> --MM
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of
>> *Wolfgang Kleinwächter
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:51 PM
>> *To:* NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>> *Subject:* [NCUC-DISCUSS] Nom Com
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> this is the next interim report about progress work within the NomCom
>> 2020 as the NCUC Rep.
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on around 40 virtual one hour interviews with candidates, done by
>> small teams of NomCom members, we had four rounds of virtual discussions in
>> July 2020 and produced for each of the seven positions shortlists.  For the
>> two positions in the ICANN Board we have now seven candidates on the
>> shortlist. For the positions in the PTI Board, GNSO, CNSO and ALAC we have
>> a smaller shortlists.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, Covid-19 has disorganised our plans. We have discussed options,
>> how to proceed. The bylaws calls for a final selection 8 weeks before the
>> Annual Meeting, which would be mid August. At this moment it is unclear how
>> we can finish this years work within the given time frame and without a
>> final round of live interviews with shortlisted candidates and a F2F
>> meeting. There are some ideas, to create hubs and to have a decentralized
>> process, but at this stage, I have serious doubts that we can reach
>> consensus intime under this extreme circumstances.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>>
>> Wolfgang
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> --
> Farzaneh
>
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