<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is what Zahid Jamil the then NomCom chair(or chair elect I can't quite remember)said in 2018:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Zahid Jamil "So we used to do things like using a ServerMonkey approach where basically<br>you had a list of candidates and we sort of rate them 1 to 5, and that number<br>that then, you know, used to come say people got 5 or 4, a 3. But then you<br>say, well, maybe people below 3 shouldn't be looked at, you know. Why are<br>we looking at people below 3?<br>So, based on that, I guess, objective, without deliberation rating, a lot of<br>people would be eliminated from the process. And we were thinking there<br>must be a way to try and improve it. So we decided that it's probably best to<br>have in-depth face-to-face meetings for the deliberations when we do<br>assessments and selections. We actually talk to each other. We go through<br>every application.<br>So this year, every single candidate who applies to the NomCom will get the<br>opportunity that their application will be reviewed and assessed by us when <br>ICANN<br>we sit together in deliberation. And I think that's a big thing. Because a lot of<br>people came to us, said that, you know, and I'll honestly tell you this, a lot of<br>folks said NomCom's a joke, the way you guys do things and the way we've<br>been treated previously, what are you doing about improving this process?<br>So we've taken a hard look at it." (page 9 and 10)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And here is some parts of what Rafik said in response (it is out of context, read the transcript if you want to make a sound judgement) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Rafik Dammak: …Zahid, please listen to us. So when you have the polling, you - I know it's<br>not perfect, it's not good - I mean, it's not the best way, but you have some<br>tools more objective than deliberation and lobbying, because I have - I can<br>have champions and try to influence my fellow NomCom members. How you<br>can ensure that there is no bias? How you can ensure…<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Link: <a href="https://static.ptbl.co/static/attachments/169631/1521043639.pdf?1521043639" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">https://static.ptbl.co/static/attachments/169631/1521043639.pdf?1521043639</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 12:27 PM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">The leaders of NOMCOM in the past insisted on face 2 face meetings because they argued it helps them with choosing candidates better and they even argue that it can lead to a better diverse choice of board members (which is puzzling for me since they hold their meeting in DC! most diverse people can’t even get a visa) </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">There are concerns that Face2Face meetings could lead to discrimination and behind the scene advocacy for a candidate.</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We asked the leaders at the time (i think it was 2018) why they wanted to have a face to face meeting (I can look up the transcript, it was in Puerto Rico) </div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:56 AM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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productive discussions; you can offer classes, you can have meetings, what is the problem with doing it virtually? <u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">To be paralyzed by the inability to have in-person meetings during a pandemic baffles me – am I missing something? What’s stopping you from dumping the in-person
meeting part and doing it virtually?</span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Kleinwächter<br>
<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:51 PM<br>
<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To:</b> NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</b> [NCUC-DISCUSS] Nom Com<u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear friends, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">this is the next interim report about progress work within the NomCom 2020 as the NCUC Rep.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Based on around 40 virtual one hour interviews with candidates, done by small teams of NomCom members, we had four rounds of virtual discussions in July 2020 and produced for each of the seven positions shortlists. For the two positions
in the ICANN Board we have now seven candidates on the shortlist. For the positions in the PTI Board, GNSO, CNSO and ALAC we have a smaller shortlists.
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, Covid-19 has disorganised our plans. We have discussed options, how to proceed. The bylaws calls for a final selection 8 weeks before the Annual Meeting, which would be mid August. At this moment it is unclear how we can finish
this years work within the given time frame and without a final round of live interviews with shortlisted candidates and a F2F meeting. There are some ideas, to create hubs and to have a decentralized process, but at this stage, I have serious doubts that
we can reach consensus intime under this extreme circumstances. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes <u></u><u></u></p>
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