[NCUC-DISCUSS] submission of IGF Workshops
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Thu May 24 17:52:38 CEST 2018
I would like to submit a proposal for a workshop on accreditation
standards for third party access to data (under data protection law, not
just the GDPR). As members of this list are probably aware by now, the
University of Toronto has received funding from the Office of the
Privacy Commissioner of Canada to explore standardization potential for
accreditation of those third parties (focusing on ICANN and the
Cybercrime investigators as an initial focus, but of course to serve all
third party requestors/investigators). I have a number of the requisite
parties for a panel already interested. Now, I think we as a
stakeholder group should not be in competition with one another. How
shall I proceed with this? I understand there may be an accreditation
proposal already in discussion, and apologize for being so preoccupied
with GDPR matters not to have focused on this...was it NCUC or NCSG who
proposed it, and is whoever initiated it interested in discussing
convergence?
Cheers Stephanie Perrin
On 2018-05-24 11:30, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
> Hi Ayden,
>
> As I see it, there's two issues that you raise. The first is around a
> need to avoid overlap in the proposals we submit - which I generally
> agree with, and have said as much on the lists with regards to any
> NCUC IGF proposal that deals with multistakeholderism (we are also
> discussing a proposal focusing on GDPR-WHOIS).
>
> The second is your suggestion that proposals should be consolidated at
> the NCSG level. I'm not sure if you're just talking about a potential
> proposal on multistakeholderism, or any proposals to IGF, or the
> proposal-making processes more generally. If you're just talking about
> a multistakeholderism proposal in this instance, then you can
> basically disregard the rest of this... but your broader statements
> about how we typically have common positions, overlapping membership,
> should avoid silo-ing etc. - seem to suggest you're speaking more
> generally. It's worth noting that this follows from a suggestion you
> made earlier this month on the lists that CROP should be consolidated
> at the NCSG level as well.
>
> So - if you're suggesting that these processes should generally be
> done at the NCSG level - that sort of leads me to ask what you think
> should be left to the constituencies, and what do you see as the role
> of the constituencies in the NCSG?
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Joan,
>
> The proposal that I drafted on behalf of the NCSG is here, and
> NPOC is more than welcome to be a part of it (as is the NCUC):
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1es_Egq11WtNUxm9HSYU8nNHcLRlMpzN6Vv_isy9eZp0/edit?usp=sharing
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1es_Egq11WtNUxm9HSYU8nNHcLRlMpzN6Vv_isy9eZp0/edit?usp=sharing>
>
> However, the NCUC was also drafting some proposals, at least one
> of which I thought was very similar. I have suggested that the
> workshops be merged into one, but the decision there lies with the
> NCUC Executive Committee to make, I suppose.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 23 May 2018 11:13 PM, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org
> <mailto:joankerr at fbsc.org>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion for the proposal as an NCSG
>> submission. When I first reviewed it, it appears to be a NCUC
>> proposal.
>> If we are in agreement, then send the link again and NPOC can add
>> to it.
>> Thanks for doing the first draft and for initiating the writing
>> of the proposal.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Ayden Férdeline
>> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I meant to write this a few days ago but it slipped my mind.
>> I was wondering, why is the NCUC thinking of submitting a
>> workshop proposal independent of the NCSG?
>>
>> Can't we just work together here and submit a common product?
>> I am an NCUC member but I am also an NCSG member, and as our
>> constituency forms a part of a larger Stakeholder Group, I
>> drafted a workshop proposal and sent it to the stakeholder
>> group because that was a bit more encompassing and allowed
>> NPOC to be a part of the work too. The NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC
>> all have the same positions on the issues that matter and a
>> largely overlapping membership, so why are we working in
>> silos here and not working together?
>>
>> Our proposals are very similar as it is... :-)
>>
>> If I'm missing something, please do let me know what, but I
>> think we should be working together with our colleagues and
>> allies in the NCSG and NPOC, especially when it comes to
>> external events like the IGF.
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On 23 May 2018 2:08 PM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org
>> <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again for this opportunity. Like for the IGF 17, I
>>> will be able to help again in anything we may need to
>>> prepare for our participation at the upcoming IGF.
>>>
>>> Awaiting more guidelines and materials to start.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 20 May 2018, at 08:46, MAURICIA ABDOL
>>>> <ladymauriciaa12 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:ladymauriciaa12 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Renata,
>>>>
>>>> Count me in.
>>>>
>>>> I will be keeping a look out for our first step in the
>>>> process so that continuations may commence.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Mauricia
>>>>
>>>> On 19 May 2018 8:43 pm, "Louise Marie Hurel"
>>>> <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Happy to help as well.
>>>> Is there a draft google doc in motion already?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and
>>>> Communications (Data and Society)
>>>> Skype: louise.dias
>>>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>> _l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <mailto:l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> _
>>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-05-18 12:43 GMT+01:00 Ronoh Kennedy
>>>> <kenronoh at gmail.com <mailto:kenronoh at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Am interested.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ronoh Kennedy
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Joan katambi
>>>> <joanhopek at gmail.com <mailto:joanhopek at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Am interested too. Bruna if the topics are
>>>> available we can start very soon.
>>>>
>>>> Joan
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:35 AM, roli mahajan
>>>> <roli.mahajan at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:roli.mahajan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would love to help. I am still learning
>>>> about the procedures but happy to help with
>>>> the writing. Any site where we could check
>>>> what kind of workshops have been held before?
>>>>
>>>> smiles...
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Dawahi
>>>> Khouloud <khoulouddaouahi at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:khoulouddaouahi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @Bruna .I'm ready to help .How about
>>>> some brainstorming first for the topics
>>>> we have in mind then we could make even
>>>> more than one proposal @Micheal
>>>>
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>>>> 2018-05-17 19:51 GMT+01:00 Bruna
>>>> Martins dos Santos
>>>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in working on the
>>>> proposal and could either be the
>>>> penholder of it or help on the
>>>> writing.
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know if anyone else
>>>> is interested.
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> Bruna
>>>>
>>>> 2018-05-17 15:23 GMT-03:00 Renata
>>>> Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:raquino at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> if you wish to work on a
>>>> workshop proposal for NCUC at
>>>> IGF, please start soon
>>>> Remember NCUC may have
>>>> possibility to help members
>>>> travel to the event.
>>>> The proposals should be build
>>>> collectively on the list and
>>>> approved by
>>>> the EC with at least 2 business
>>>> days
>>>> Deadline for submission to IGF
>>>> is 27th May
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Renata
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