[NCUC-DISCUSS] submission of IGF Workshops

Thu May 24 17:30:44 CEST 2018

Hi Ayden,

As I see it, there's two issues that you raise. The first is around a need
to avoid overlap in the proposals we submit - which I generally agree with,
and have said as much on the lists with regards to any NCUC IGF proposal
that deals with multistakeholderism (we are also discussing a proposal
focusing on GDPR-WHOIS).

The second is your suggestion that proposals should be consolidated at the
NCSG level. I'm not sure if you're just talking about a potential proposal
on multistakeholderism, or any proposals to IGF, or the proposal-making
processes more generally. If you're just talking about a
multistakeholderism proposal in this instance, then you can basically
disregard the rest of this... but your broader statements about how we
typically have common positions, overlapping membership, should avoid
silo-ing etc. - seem to suggest you're speaking more generally. It's worth
noting that this follows from a suggestion you made earlier this month on
the lists that CROP should be consolidated at the NCSG level as well.

So - if you're suggesting that these processes should generally be done at
the NCSG level - that sort of leads me to ask what you think should be left
to the constituencies, and what do you see as the role of the
constituencies in the NCSG?

Best,

Michael

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> Hi Joan,
>
> The proposal that I drafted on behalf of the NCSG is here, and NPOC is
> more than welcome to be a part of it (as is the NCUC):
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1es_Egq11WtNUxm9HSYU8nNHc
> LRlMpzN6Vv_isy9eZp0/edit?usp=sharing
>
> However, the NCUC was also drafting some proposals, at least one of which
> I thought was very similar. I have suggested that the workshops be merged
> into one, but the decision there lies with the NCUC Executive Committee to
> make, I suppose.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 23 May 2018 11:13 PM, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Ayden,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion for the proposal as an NCSG submission.  When I
> first reviewed it, it appears to be a NCUC proposal.
> If we are in agreement, then send the link again and NPOC can add to it.
> Thanks for doing the first draft and for initiating the writing of the
> proposal.
> Cheers,
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I meant to write this a few days ago but it slipped my mind. I was
>> wondering, why is the NCUC thinking of submitting a workshop proposal
>> independent of the NCSG?
>>
>> Can't we just work together here and submit a common product? I am an
>> NCUC member but I am also an NCSG member, and as our constituency forms a
>> part of a larger Stakeholder Group, I drafted a workshop proposal and sent
>> it to the stakeholder group because that was a bit more encompassing and
>> allowed NPOC to be a part of the work too. The NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC all
>> have the same positions on the issues that matter and a largely overlapping
>> membership, so why are we working in silos here and not working together?
>>
>> Our proposals are very similar as it is... :-)
>>
>> If I'm missing something, please do let me know what, but I think we
>> should be working together with our colleagues and allies in the NCSG and
>> NPOC, especially when it comes to external events like the IGF.
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On 23 May 2018 2:08 PM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks again for this opportunity. Like for the IGF 17, I will be able to
>> help again in anything we may need to prepare for our participation at the
>> upcoming IGF.
>>
>> Awaiting more guidelines and materials to start.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 May 2018, at 08:46, MAURICIA ABDOL <ladymauriciaa12 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Renata,
>>
>> Count me in.
>>
>> I will be keeping a look out for our first step in the process so that
>> continuations may commence.
>>
>> Best,
>> Mauricia
>>
>> On 19 May 2018 8:43 pm, "Louise Marie Hurel" <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Happy to help as well.
>>> Is there a draft google doc in motion already?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
>>> Society)
>>> Skype: louise.dias
>>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
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>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-05-18 12:43 GMT+01:00 Ronoh Kennedy <kenronoh at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Am interested.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ronoh Kennedy
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Joan katambi <joanhopek at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am interested too. Bruna if the topics are available we can start very
>>>>> soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:35 AM, roli mahajan <roli.mahajan at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to help. I am still learning about the procedures but
>>>>>> happy to help with the writing. Any site where we could check what kind of
>>>>>> workshops have been held before?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> smiles...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Dawahi Khouloud <
>>>>>> khoulouddaouahi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Bruna .I'm ready to help .How about some brainstorming first for
>>>>>>> the topics we have in mind then we could make even more than one proposal
>>>>>>> @Micheal
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> 2018-05-17 19:51 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am interested in working on the proposal and could either be the
>>>>>>>> penholder of it or help on the writing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please let us know if anyone else is interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-05-17 15:23 GMT-03:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you wish to work on a workshop proposal for NCUC at IGF, please
>>>>>>>>> start soon
>>>>>>>>> Remember NCUC may have possibility to help members travel to the
>>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>> The proposals should be build collectively on the list and
>>>>>>>>> approved by
>>>>>>>>> the EC with at least 2 business days
>>>>>>>>> Deadline for submission to IGF is 27th May
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Renata
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