[NCUC-DISCUSS] submission of IGF Workshops

Thu May 24 18:10:35 CEST 2018

This sounds like an excellent and informative workshop, Stephanie. Farzaneh proposed a similar idea on the NCSG list; you can see her initial thoughts on the last page of [this Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1es_Egq11WtNUxm9HSYU8nNHcLRlMpzN6Vv_isy9eZp0/edit?usp=sharing). It still needs to be developed, but the initial deadline for workshop proposals (this Sunday) is likely to be pushed back by at least a week, so there is still time. And there's still time for other great ideas to be turned into workshop proposals!

Best wishes, Ayden

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On 24 May 2018 5:52 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I would like to submit a proposal for a workshop on accreditation standards for third party access to data (under data protection law, not just the GDPR).  As members of this list are probably aware by now, the University of Toronto has received funding from the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada to explore standardization potential for accreditation of those third parties (focusing on ICANN and the Cybercrime investigators as an initial focus, but of course to serve all third party requestors/investigators).  I have a number of the requisite parties for a panel already interested.  Now, I think we as a stakeholder group should not be in competition with one another.  How shall I proceed with this?  I understand there may be an accreditation proposal already in discussion, and apologize for being so preoccupied with GDPR matters not to have focused on this...was it NCUC or NCSG who proposed it, and is whoever initiated it interested in discussing convergence?
>
> Cheers Stephanie Perrin
>
> On 2018-05-24 11:30, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> As I see it, there's two issues that you raise. The first is around a need to avoid overlap in the proposals we submit - which I generally agree with, and have said as much on the lists with regards to any NCUC IGF proposal that deals with multistakeholderism (we are also discussing a proposal focusing on GDPR-WHOIS).
>>
>> The second is your suggestion that proposals should be consolidated at the NCSG level. I'm not sure if you're just talking about a potential proposal on multistakeholderism, or any proposals to IGF, or the proposal-making processes more generally. If you're just talking about a multistakeholderism proposal in this instance, then you can basically disregard the rest of this... but your broader statements about how we typically have common positions, overlapping membership, should avoid silo-ing etc. - seem to suggest you're speaking more generally. It's worth noting that this follows from a suggestion you made earlier this month on the lists that CROP should be consolidated at the NCSG level as well.
>>
>> So - if you're suggesting that these processes should generally be done at the NCSG level - that sort of leads me to ask what you think should be left to the constituencies, and what do you see as the role of the constituencies in the NCSG?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joan,
>>>
>>> The proposal that I drafted on behalf of the NCSG is here, and NPOC is more than welcome to be a part of it (as is the NCUC):
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1es_Egq11WtNUxm9HSYU8nNHcLRlMpzN6Vv_isy9eZp0/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> However, the NCUC was also drafting some proposals, at least one of which I thought was very similar. I have suggested that the workshops be merged into one, but the decision there lies with the NCUC Executive Committee to make, I suppose.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>
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>>> On 23 May 2018 11:13 PM, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion for the proposal as an NCSG submission.  When I first reviewed it, it appears to be a NCUC proposal.
>>>> If we are in agreement, then send the link again and NPOC can add to it.
>>>> Thanks for doing the first draft and for initiating the writing of the proposal.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I meant to write this a few days ago but it slipped my mind. I was wondering, why is the NCUC thinking of submitting a workshop proposal independent of the NCSG?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't we just work together here and submit a common product? I am an NCUC member but I am also an NCSG member, and as our constituency forms a part of a larger Stakeholder Group, I drafted a workshop proposal and sent it to the stakeholder group because that was a bit more encompassing and allowed NPOC to be a part of the work too. The NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC all have the same positions on the issues that matter and a largely overlapping membership, so why are we working in silos here and not working together?
>>>>>
>>>>> Our proposals are very similar as it is... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm missing something, please do let me know what, but I think we should be working together with our colleagues and allies in the NCSG and NPOC, especially when it comes to external events like the IGF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>
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>>>>> On 23 May 2018 2:08 PM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for this opportunity. Like for the IGF 17, I will be able to help again in anything we may need to prepare for our participation at the upcoming IGF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Awaiting more guidelines and materials to start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On 20 May 2018, at 08:46, MAURICIA ABDOL <ladymauriciaa12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Renata,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Count me in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be keeping a look out for our first step in the process so that continuations may commence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Mauricia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 May 2018 8:43 pm, "Louise Marie Hurel" <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy to help as well.
>>>>>>>> Is there a draft google doc in motion already?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>>>>>>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>>>>>>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and Society)
>>>>>>>> Skype: louise.dias
>>>>>>>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>>>>>> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-05-18 12:43 GMT+01:00 Ronoh Kennedy <kenronoh at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am interested.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ronoh Kennedy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Joan katambi <joanhopek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am interested too. Bruna if the topics are available we can start very soon.
>>>>>>>>>> Joan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:35 AM, roli mahajan <roli.mahajan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to help. I am still learning about the procedures but happy to help with the writing. Any site where we could check what kind of workshops have been held before?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smiles...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Dawahi Khouloud <khoulouddaouahi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruna .I'm ready to help .How about some brainstorming first for the topics we have in mind then we could make even more than one proposal @Micheal
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-05-17 19:51 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested in working on the proposal and could either be the penholder of it or help on the writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know if anyone else is interested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-05-17 15:23 GMT-03:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you wish to work on a workshop proposal for NCUC at IGF, please start soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember NCUC may have possibility to help members travel to the event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The proposals should be build collectively on the list and approved by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the EC with at least 2 business days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deadline for submission to IGF is 27th May
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Renata
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