[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Ext] Fellowship Request for ICANN 62 Policy Forum

Sun Mar 4 06:48:18 CET 2018

I am confused! Is it wrong for the chair to announce to the constituency
when a member recieves a letter of confirmation of an opportunity in ICANN
or to inform the constituency that a member previously selected is no
longer selected due to a 'glitch'?
I agree with Dorothy, this was a public call, with public responses. So the
list should know of 'glitches' to the selection.

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Tomslin

On 4 March 2018 at 09:27, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> From what I understand, ICANN did not publish the names of those chosen
> for this fellowship. It was announced prematurely on our list by the NCUC
> Chair. It was my perception that the Chair was trying to influence the GSE
> staff in her email to our list today, and I think that is improper.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 3 March 2018 11:17 PM, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This public conversation is important. The call was public. The person
> selected was public.  If the person will now not be able to attend due to a
> 'glitch' we should know.  In my view the Chair made the right decision.
> Personally I believe that if an organisation with the kind of resources
> available to ICANN makes this kind of 'glitch' it should cough up the
> resources to correct it. As the Chair correctly points out time and
> resources have been sacrificed from our side.  This is not a personal issue
> between two individuals.
>
> best
> Dorothy
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Claire Craig <claireccraig at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>> Interesting discussion. I'm actually grateful that the Chair brought this
>> out in the open to the list.Since everyone on the list knew when I received
>> the fellowship, it was a bit awkward when I found out that it was not to be
>>  (through no fault of my own I must add) as I was told "there was an
>> administrative glitch". I wasn't sure if I should have said something about
>> it on the list., so  as soon as I found out I informed to the Chair.
>> Nonetheless, I still thought that it would have been cleared up. However,
>> it was confirmed recently, that the 'glitch' could not be corrected.  This
>> is life and these things happen, so we move on with the work at hand. I
>> will continue to engage and learn and see how I can contribute to the NCUC.
>>
>> CCC
>>
>> On 3 March 2018 at 15:08, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoront
>> o.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with James and Ayden.  Some time ago, before the crazy rush that
>>> GDPR compliance has brought to my own workload, I volunteered (to Tapani)
>>> to come up with an ethics and privacy code to propose to our membership in
>>> NCSG.  I am sorry that I have been too swamped to attend to this, as I
>>> think such a code would provide more clarity in these matters.  I will
>>> start this soon, as soon as I have finished responding to the latest ICANN
>>> models, and will circulate it for consideration in NCUC.
>>>
>>> kind regards Stephanie Perrin
>>> On 2018-03-03 13:33, James Gannon wrote:
>>>
>>> Agreed this is a vary strange action taken by the NCUC chair here to
>>> bring this into a public forum without agreement from all parties to the
>>> private mail conversation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 Mar 2018, at 19:30, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Renata,
>>>
>>> I don't plan to continue engaging in this conversation, other than to
>>> add that I feel very strongly that this is something that should be taken
>>> offline and dealt with privately. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On 3 March 2018 7:26 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> This was a call distributed in our list, to which many members responded
>>> to and a dozen or so members onlist and offlist asked clarification, not
>>> counting those who congratulated the member.
>>> That being said, I'm sorry for your impression. There are often
>>> unpleasant conversations in ICANN that I would rather not have and this is
>>> one.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Renata - I think it is highly inappropriate to have this conversation
>>>> on a public mailing list. This should be taken offline, and I am actually
>>>> not sure that you should be the one raising it. It is perhaps a
>>>> conversation to be had between the applicant and GSE. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On 3 March 2018 7:13 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Daniel
>>>> I'm copying NCUC list.
>>>>
>>>> I find it very unfortunate recanting the fellowship of Claire Craig.
>>>>
>>>> She did the whole process by the book - saw a call, applied.
>>>>
>>>> Knowing she was selected, took time and efforts (possibly including
>>>> financial ones), to organize herself to come to an ICANN meeting, to
>>>> volunteer to participate in ICANN processes as she has been doing as an
>>>> NCUC member, accompanying our lists and joining our online meetings.
>>>> As NCUC Chair, I would like to see more respect to our members.
>>>> People are not glitches.
>>>>
>>>> To see decisions made about them based on that is not acceptable.
>>>> Community members are always grateful for staff work but the hard truth
>>>> has also to be said, esp. when decisions affect the collectivity of our
>>>> Constituency.
>>>> Hope this message is taken into account before future decisions.
>>>>
>>>> Renata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Daniel Fink <daniel.fink at icann.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Claire
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, we could not make for this batch given the newcomers
>>>>> criteria, as we talked in Port of Spain. Apologies again for my
>>>>> administrative glitch that caused all confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don’t lose the enthusiasm, let’s work together for the new
>>>>> round in Barcelona. It will open this March 20.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Claire Craig <claireccraig at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 6:27 PM
>>>>> *To: *Daniel Fink <daniel.fink at icann.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *"chair at ncuc.org" <chair at ncuc.org>, Rodrigo de la Parra <
>>>>> rodrigo.delaparra at icann.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ext] Fellowship Request for ICANN 62 Policy Forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you made a final decision on this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Claire
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 February 2018 at 04:07, Daniel Fink <daniel.fink at icann.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Claire
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this message finds you well. Thank you very much for your
>>>>> application.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am writing to inform that your name has been selected to receive a
>>>>> fellowship support to attend ICANN 62 Policy Forum, that will be held in
>>>>> Panama this 25-28 Jun 2018.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In this message, we would like to:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Ask about your availability to travel to Panama to attend the
>>>>>    meeting (with expenses covered by the Fellowship program);
>>>>>    2. Schedule a quick Skype or phone call this week (preferably this
>>>>>    February 14th) to provide you more details. Please let me know
>>>>>    your phone number or Skype ID.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you prefer, feel free to add me on Skype. My ID is danielfink.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your attention and hope to talk with you soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Claire Craig <claireccraig at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 3:52 PM
>>>>> *To: *Daniel Fink <daniel.fink at icann.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *"chair at ncuc.org" <chair at ncuc.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Fellowship Request for ICANN 62 Policy Forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it's not too late to indicate my interest in a fellowship to
>>>>> the ICANN 62 Policy Forum. I am a newcomer on the NCUC and have participate
>>>>> in the Policy Committee calls. I think it would be a good opportunity to
>>>>> have the face-to-face experience since becoming a member of the NCUC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see attached the essay supporting this application.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do hope you will look favorably upon my application.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Claire Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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