[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Policy Course date change

Wed Jan 3 17:46:54 CET 2018

All,

This is a problem all over. Due to the hurricane, the venue has time and 
space limitations. It turns out all of our normal pre-meeting events 
(leadership, onboarding, etc) are being moved to the dates of the main 
meeting. I am told that few if any pre-meeting events will be held. 
Everything (preparatory, leadership, policy) is being jammed together. A 
challenge!

All three PDP Working Groups, as in Abu Dhabi, I believe are holding 6 
hours each of F2F meetings -- all important as these groups move to 
critical issues in their work. If the NCUC Policy Course could avoid 
these meetings, that would be great!

Of course, all NCUC members, in Puerto Rico and participating remotely, 
are welcome to attend these PDP meetings!

Best, Kathy

On 1/3/2018 11:31 AM, thatomfikwe wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I fully support implementation of the NCUC policy course, I believe 
> thT if it is interactive enough for online partcipants then it can 
> still be done within ICANN meetings.
>
> Now if we attempt to measure or compare levels of attendance and 
> participation for  onsite vs online meetings options, below is my 
> analysis:
>
> Onsite-onsite participants will benefit more and online participants 
> might not be able to effectively interact, although the transfer of 
> knowledge can still be achieved. Onsite meetings also provide a good 
> opportunity to practice not only learn.
>
> Online-all participants have equal footing but might also limit 
> participation as some may have connectivity issues. Online meetings 
> have work well previously, especially if the agenda/cirricular is 
> engaging and comprehensive for actionability.
>
> The last option could be having these courses over 6-10 ICANN Meetings 
> at minimum as it will strengthen NCUC to effectively engage in PDP 
> prominimu within ICANN. This can be complemented by online courses to 
> accomodate those who annot attend for whatever reason. Thanks.
>
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> Date: 03/01/2018 09:49 (GMT+02:00)
> To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> Cc: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, NCUC-discuss 
> <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Policy Course date change
>
> This is a valid point as raised by Ayden and i do agree with him on 
> the effectiveness of this program if it has to happen during the 
> actual meeting.
>
> @Renata, can you please let us know more on why this has changed? What 
> are the reasons behind this important change?
>
> Maybe this will help us understand the rationale and suggest way forward.
>
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> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>
> On Jan 3, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com 
> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Renata.
>>
>> If I may speak freely for a moment, I find this change to be 
>> counter-intuitive.
>>
>> The purpose of this course was to upskill our members so that they 
>> can engage more deeply in our policy work.
>>
>> One part is, yes, knowing how to write a comment, and that is what 
>> this course seeks to address — but it's hard to write a comment on an 
>> issue that one is not tracking closely. We generally track issues by 
>> attending their face-to-face (and online) meetings and participating 
>> in the deliberations based upon our own analysis of discussions and 
>> source material.
>>
>> In asking people to participate in this course DURING the ICANN 
>> meeting, we are asking that they not attend Working Group sessions 
>> and others where 'real' policy work is taking place. It diminishes 
>> our presence at the ICANN meeting, as those NCUC members who 
>> participate in this course will not be in sessions asking questions 
>> and contributing to discussions, speaking professionally and 
>> intelligently on behalf of the NCUC.
>>
>> If this change was the result of a staff request, I hope that it can 
>> be re-considered. The leadership course in San Juan, for instance, is 
>> being appropriately held as a pre-event.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Policy Course date change
>>> Local Time: 2 January 2018 9:33 PM
>>> UTC Time: 2 January 2018 20:33
>>> From: raquino at gmail.com <mailto:raquino at gmail.com>
>>> To: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org 
>>> <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>>
>>>
>>> Dear members
>>>
>>> We had a change in the NCUC Policy Course.
>>>
>>> It won't be previous to ICANN meeting anymore but during meeting days.
>>>
>>> So those who applied for extra funding for this, it won't be needed
>>> anymore because the course will be during the ICANN meeting.
>>>
>>> As soon as the final date is ascertained, we'll let you know.
>>> We'll also know by them number of participants and criteria for 
>>> choosing them.
>>>
>>> The online version of this course will be open to all, no need to apply.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Renata
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