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<p>All,</p>
<p>This is a problem all over. Due to the hurricane, the venue has
time and space limitations. It turns out all of our normal
pre-meeting events (leadership, onboarding, etc) are being moved
to the dates of the main meeting. I am told that few if any
pre-meeting events will be held. Everything (preparatory,
leadership, policy) is being jammed together. A challenge!</p>
All three PDP Working Groups, as in Abu Dhabi, I believe are holding
6 hours each of F2F meetings -- all important as these groups move
to critical issues in their work. If the NCUC Policy Course could
avoid these meetings, that would be great! <br>
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Of course, all NCUC members, in Puerto Rico and participating
remotely, are welcome to attend these PDP meetings!<br>
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Best, Kathy <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/3/2018 11:31 AM, thatomfikwe
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>I fully support implementation of the NCUC policy course, I
believe thT if it is interactive enough for online partcipants
then it can still be done within ICANN meetings.</div>
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<div>Now if we attempt to measure or compare levels of attendance
and participation for onsite vs online meetings options, below
is my analysis:</div>
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<div>Onsite-onsite participants will benefit more and online
participants might not be able to effectively interact, although
the transfer of knowledge can still be achieved. Onsite meetings
also provide a good opportunity to practice not only learn.</div>
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<div>Online-all participants have equal footing but might also
limit participation as some may have connectivity issues. Online
meetings have work well previously, especially if the
agenda/cirricular is engaging and comprehensive for
actionability.</div>
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<div>The last option could be having these courses over 6-10 ICANN
Meetings at minimum as it will strengthen NCUC to effectively
engage in PDP prominimu within ICANN. This can be complemented
by online courses to accomodate those who annot attend for
whatever reason. Thanks.</div>
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<div>Thato Mfikwe.</div>
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<div>Date: 03/01/2018 09:49 (GMT+02:00) </div>
<div>To: Ayden Férdeline <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"><icann@ferdeline.com></a> </div>
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This is a valid point as raised by Ayden and i do agree with him
on the effectiveness of this program if it has to happen during
the actual meeting.
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<div>@Renata, can you please let us know more on why this has
changed? What are the reasons behind this important change?</div>
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<div>Maybe this will help us understand the rationale and suggest
way forward.<br>
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On Jan 3, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Ayden Férdeline <<a
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<div>Thanks, Renata.<br>
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<div>If I may speak freely for a moment, I find this change
to be counter-intuitive.<br>
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<div>The purpose of this course was to upskill our members
so that they can engage more deeply in our policy work.<br>
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<div>One part is, yes, knowing how to write a comment, and
that is what this course seeks to address — but it's hard
to write a comment on an issue that one is not tracking
closely. We generally track issues by attending their
face-to-face (and online) meetings and participating in
the deliberations based upon our own analysis of
discussions and source material.<br>
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<div>In asking people to participate in this course DURING
the ICANN meeting, we are asking that they not attend
Working Group sessions and others where 'real' policy work
is taking place. It diminishes our presence at the ICANN
meeting, as those NCUC members who participate in this
course will not be in sessions asking questions and
contributing to discussions, speaking professionally and
intelligently on behalf of the NCUC.<br>
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<div>If this change was the result of a staff request, I
hope that it can be re-considered. The leadership course
in San Juan, for instance, is being appropriately held as
a pre-event.<br>
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<div>Best wishes, <br>
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<div>Ayden<br>
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<div>Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Policy Course date
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<div>Local Time: 2 January 2018 9:33 PM<br>
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<div>From: <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com"
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<div>Dear members<br>
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<div> We had a change in the NCUC Policy Course.<br>
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<div> It won't be previous to ICANN meeting anymore but
during meeting days.<br>
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<div> So those who applied for extra funding for this,
it won't be needed<br>
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<div> anymore because the course will be during the
ICANN meeting.<br>
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<div> As soon as the final date is ascertained, we'll
let you know.<br>
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<div> We'll also know by them number of participants and
criteria for choosing them.<br>
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<div> The online version of this course will be open to
all, no need to apply.<br>
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<div> Thanks<br>
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<div> Renata<br>
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