[NCUC-DISCUSS] Middle East and Adjoining Countries Group at NCUC
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri May 5 16:05:01 CEST 2017
Sounds sensible to me.
Stephanie Perrin
On 2017-05-05 03:01, Kris Seeburn wrote:
> Sorry to interrupt but I am very doubtful having Arab league and
> Israel together would not help at all. In many organizations Israel is
> put under Europe rather than Middle East.
>
> I think the logical thinking is to elude any clash.
>
> But again I've observed many situations where we needed this split to
> stay clean. IEEE does that and so many others. I would prefer we be
> careful.
>
>
> Kris
>
> On 5 May 2017, at 10:54, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>
>> These definitions are very arbitrary. If ICANN wishes to rely on a
>> definition of MEAC provided by the Arab League, okay, but I think for
>> the NCUC's regional subgroup, self-identification is a better path
>> forward.
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Middle East and Adjoining Countries
>>> Group at NCUC
>>> Local Time: 5 May 2017 7:50 AM
>>> UTC Time: 5 May 2017 06:50
>>> From: mike.oghia at gmail.com <mailto:mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
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>>> Also to add to the clarification, my understanding is that Israel is
>>> considered part of the European region in ICANN, hence why it is not
>>> included within the remit of the MEAC Strategy Working Group.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 to Farzi's idea that if you self-identify as being a part of
>>> the region, you can join the NCUC's regional subgroup.
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Middle East and Adjoining Countries
>>>> Group at NCUC
>>>> Local Time: 4 May 2017 9:45 PM
>>>> UTC Time: 4 May 2017 20:45
>>>> From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>> To: avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>
>>>> ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>
>>>> Avri, I believe Farzaneh corrected the mistake and added Israel
>>>> as a full participant to the regional ncuc group. I don't think
>>>> they should be considered as observers but participants.
>>>>
>>>> I want to commend this initiative and call on other regions to
>>>> organize. Our Africa rep has initiated this for the region and
>>>> we hope we strenghen it in Johanesbourg as we will likely have
>>>> so many African members.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>> -----------------
>>>> Arsène Tungali,
>>>> about.me/ArseneTungali <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>
>>>> +243 993810967 <tel:+243%20993%20810%20967>
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>>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>>>>
>>>> > On May 4, 2017, at 5:35 PM, avri doria <avri at acm.org
>>>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > For clarification, Israelis may observe but not participate?
>>>> >
>>>> > avri
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 04-May-17 11:22, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>> >> Thank you for adding Turkey, that was my oversight. I have
>>>> seen tweets
>>>> >> asserting that I ( personally) did not include Israel in
>>>> this group. I
>>>> >> took the membership list of the MEAC group ( Middle East and
>>>> Adjoining
>>>> >> Countries which said 22 Arab Countries and the three other
>>>> countries).
>>>> >> Israel was not in the list. As you see there was oversight
>>>> by me not
>>>> >> to include Turkey either. So I might have used an old list.
>>>> Of course
>>>> >> members from Israel are welcome to join. And any other
>>>> country that
>>>> >> MEAC does not include but it sees itself fitting the Middle
>>>> East region.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Farzaneh
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Nadira Alaraj
>>>> <nadira.araj at gmail.com <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>
>>>> >> <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you Farzi for keeping initiating the regional
>>>> sub-group NCUC.
>>>> >> May I add Turkey to be in listed among the MEAC countries.
>>>> >> You can consider this email as interest to join.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nadira
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On May 4, 2017 4:54 PM, "farzaneh badii"
>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>> >> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hello NCUC,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It has been our plan for awhile to create a Middle East and
>>>> >> Adjoining countries NCUC group to discuss the regions
>>>> >> noncommercial domain registrants and domain name users rights.
>>>> >> It is good to bring a focus on this sub-region at NCUC. I hope
>>>> >> this initiative will be useful for that region. If you think
>>>> >> other regional sub groups (Eastern Europe, CIS, Pacific etc)
>>>> >> would be useful and you want to shepherd it, please feel free
>>>> >> to contact your regional representative.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Those who are based in the 22 Arab Nations , Iran, Afghanistan
>>>> >> and Pakistan, or are familiar with domain name issues in these
>>>> >> regions, please feel free to volunteer to join this group.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You can state your interest by contacting me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Farzaneh
>>>> >>
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