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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-05-05 03:01, Kris Seeburn
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<div>Sorry to interrupt but I am very doubtful having Arab league
and Israel together would not help at all. In many organizations
Israel is put under Europe rather than Middle East. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">But again I've observed many
situations where we needed this split to stay clean. IEEE does
that and so many others. I would prefer we be careful.</div>
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<div>These definitions are very arbitrary. If ICANN wishes to
rely on a definition of MEAC provided by the Arab League,
okay, but I think for the NCUC's regional subgroup,
self-identification is a better path forward. <br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Middle East and Adjoining
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<div>Also to add to the clarification, my understanding is
that Israel is considered part of the European region in
ICANN, hence why it is not included within the remit of
the MEAC Strategy Working Group. <br>
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<div>+1 to Farzi's idea that if you self-identify as
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<div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Middle East
and Adjoining Countries Group at NCUC<br>
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<div>Local Time: 4 May 2017 9:45 PM<br>
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<div>Avri, I believe Farzaneh corrected the
mistake and added Israel as a full
participant to the regional ncuc group. I
don't think they should be considered as
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<div>I want to commend this initiative and
call on other regions to organize. Our
Africa rep has initiated this for the region
and we hope we strenghen it in Johanesbourg
as we will likely have so many African
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<div>> On May 4, 2017, at 5:35 PM, avri
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<div>> Hi,<br>
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<div>> For clarification, Israelis may
observe but not participate?<br>
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<div>>> On 04-May-17 11:22, farzaneh
badii wrote:<br>
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<div>>> Thank you for adding Turkey,
that was my oversight. I have seen tweets<br>
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<div>>> asserting that I ( personally)
did not include Israel in this group. I<br>
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<div>>> took the membership list of the
MEAC group ( Middle East and Adjoining<br>
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<div>>> Countries which said 22 Arab
Countries and the three other countries).<br>
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<div>>> Israel was not in the list. As
you see there was oversight by me not<br>
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<div>>> to include Turkey either. So I
might have used an old list. Of course<br>
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<div>>> members from Israel are welcome
to join. And any other country that<br>
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<div>>> MEAC does not include but it
sees itself fitting the Middle East region.
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<div>>> Farzaneh<br>
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<div>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 10:35 AM,
Nadira Alaraj <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com"
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<div>>> Thank you Farzi for keeping
initiating the regional sub-group NCUC. <br>
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<div>>> May I add Turkey to be in listed
among the MEAC countries. <br>
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<div>>> You can consider this email as
interest to join. <br>
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<div>>> Nadira <br>
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<div>>> On May 4, 2017 4:54 PM,
"farzaneh badii" <<a
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href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com"
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<div>>> <mailto:<a
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href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">farzaneh.badii@gmail.c<wbr>om</a>>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>>> Hello NCUC,<br>
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<div>>> It has been our plan for awhile
to create a Middle East and<br>
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<div>>> Adjoining countries NCUC group
to discuss the regions<br>
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<div>>> noncommercial domain registrants
and domain name users rights. <br>
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<div>>> It is good to bring a focus on
this sub-region at NCUC. I hope<br>
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<div>>> this initiative will be useful
for that region. If you think<br>
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<div>>> other regional sub groups
(Eastern Europe, CIS, Pacific etc)<br>
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<div>>> would be useful and you want to
shepherd it, please feel free<br>
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<div>>> to contact your regional
representative.<br>
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<div>>> <br>
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<div>>> Those who are based in the 22
Arab Nations , Iran, Afghanistan<br>
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<div>>> and Pakistan, or are familiar
with domain name issues in these<br>
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<div>>> regions, please feel free to
volunteer to join this group.<br>
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<div>>> <br>
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<div>>> You can state your interest by
contacting me.<br>
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<div>>> <br>
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<div>>> Best <br>
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<div>>> <br>
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<div>>> <br>
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<div>>> Farzaneh<br>
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