[NCUC-DISCUSS] Nomcom

[Karel Douglas]

Well said Ayden ,Bill , Dorothy and others.

This is good infromation. It is indeed not a popularity contest and I look
forward to hearing more about the actual selection of the candid.

Thanks

Karel

On 30 July 2017 at 19:55, Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com> wrote:

> Please all.
> Do remenber that we are a community from diverse geigraphical regions
> using languages.
> For we who don't have english as daily speaking language or are not so
> fluent in english, the +1 help us to express ourselves in certain manner to
> decrypt.
> Please take it into account too.
> My 2 cents.
> Warm regards
> Olevie
>
> Le 30 juil. 2017 14:27, "Ginger Paque" <virginiap at diplomacy.edu> a écrit :
>
>> Interesting discussion.
>>
>>    - I think +1's mean 'I agree, for the stipulated reasons, and I'm not
>>    going to reiterate the points, taking up people's time.'
>>    *If +1's are not valid input, we should know that and make it a
>>    guideline. (I for one, do not agree. I think I'm saving people's reading
>>    time).*
>>
>>
>>    - If I agree with the general direction of the discussion and have
>>    nothing new to add, I don't write to the list. I speak up when I have
>>    something to say, and that would usually be 1. if I disagree, or 2. I
>>    consider it to be a point that is seeking consensus. So either a dissenting
>>    opinion or a +1. That is input I consider *most* appropriate for a
>>    lot of us.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ginger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Virginia Paque
>> DiploFoundation
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe <soekpe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> On point.
>>> My 50cents, we all learn by doing and participating.
>>>
>>> Skills and knowledge are developed, quality is determined by whoever had
>>> chosen to chase for clarity responsibilities and innovative application of
>>> knowledge gained over the years.
>>>
>>> We can evolve through many means and not only on the challenges of
>>> Regional backwardness.
>>>
>>> Kind regards.
>>>
>>> Sonigitu Ekpe
>>>
>>> On 30 Jul, 2017 02:53, "William Drake" <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 04:21, Stephanie Perrin <
>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> I do agree with Dorothy that this is not a popularity contest....we have
>>> two great candidates, and the exec cttee will have to figure out what the
>>> job demands and pick the better candidate in their best judgement.  I
>>> recommend they ask Bill and Brenden, our two most recent Nomcom reps, to
>>> tell them the challenges of the role. It would not hurt to discuss exactly
>>> what we want out of Nomcom, and what kind of candidates we think we need
>>> for all the appointees.
>>>
>>> I can only re-state what I’ve said on the list on multiple occasions
>>> over the past couple years and on the call the other day.
>>>
>>> There is a great deal of strategic interaction going on in NomCom
>>> selection processes.  To work effectively as the sole civil society rep in
>>> a large group, the NCUC rep must
>>>
>>> 1) be well familiarized with the various SOAC groups that make up the
>>> community, and their respective historical orientations, leadership
>>> requirements (since you’re appointing their ‘leaders'), preferences, and
>>> interrelationships (so you can recognize the coalitions being formed around
>>> decisions, on the fly)
>>> 2) know and be known/respected by the SOAC’s representatives so you can
>>> build relationships of trust and have your views be taken seriously on
>>> their merits rather than as just special pleading for one tribe’s interests
>>> (NomCom is supposed to select people with the interests of the community as
>>> a whole at heart, not just the members’ respective groups)
>>> 3) have the skills needed to build coalitions, lobby, and adjust tactics
>>> quickly in real time as voting landscape shifts
>>> 4) have extensive personal networks in the ICANN and IG spaces and
>>> beyond so you can encourage good people to go through the work of applying
>>> and seeing the process through, and can explain the processes to them so
>>> expectations don’t get out of line with reality
>>>
>>> The NCUC EC has to take these sorts of consideration into account when
>>> making a selection.  The decision has to be on professional grounds, not
>>> personal.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
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