[NCUC-DISCUSS] Facebook as an obligatory requirement for being ICANN60 fellow

[Mamadou LO]

Totally agree with Ginger but only those who have completed one fellowship program are only included in the fellows mailing list. I do not know it is the case here.
Mamadou



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De : Ginger Paque <virginiap at diplomacy.edu>
Date : 27/07/2017 21:21 (GMT+00:00)
À : "McLaughlin, Lisa" <mclauglm at miamioh.edu>
Cc : NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>, siranush.vardanyan at icann.org
Objet : Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Facebook as an obligatory requirement for being ICANN60 fellow

Sorry if I misunderstand the relationship between the NCUC and the ICANN fellowship programme. A good start would be the ICANN fellowship programme list, or at least a list like this one but including people at the source. I hope it was clear that I totally agree with the points made. FB is not an appropriate venue for an ICANN fellowship compulsory group I only think the discussion should include ICANN fellowship people who can respond and clarify, which started to happen by including Siranush while I was writing, and posts were crossing each other, and perhaps should have started with an email to the ICANN fellowship team (perhaps it did, and I did not catch it).

Not a FB fan, LIsa.
Ginger

Virginia Paque
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:09 PM, McLaughlin, Lisa <mclauglm at miamioh.edu<mailto:mclauglm at miamioh.edu>> wrote:
Ginger, what would be an appropriate place to discuss ICANN fellowship rules? Facebook?

;-)

Regards,

Lisa

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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Ginger Paque <virginiap at diplomacy.edu<mailto:virginiap at diplomacy.edu>> wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to discuss ICANN fellowship rules, although I think this is very important. When I was an ICANN fellow, a mailing list was all that was required for online communication. Non-commercial and more private alternatives must be available, especially with ICANN's resources, and Siranush's experience. Also ccing Siranush. I'm glad this is being addressed. Thanks. ginger

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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

Normally fellows are encouraged to participate in social media for experience sharing to somewhat promote the program.

That said, I agree that the choice of word used by staff seem to imply a compulsory requirement but I want to believe it's a lower "r" kindof requirement and they really don't mean it as such.

When I was a fellow there used to be a 7am fellows session(I think it still happen) and I will hear Mama J say things in the line of "coming promptly is a requirement.... don't try me guys". While we don't want to see the red part of Mama J, some of us that goofed occasionally, found that it was rather important and in our interest to be prompt as there wasn't a checkbox that we ultimately has unchecked (if any). So being a requirement became more of a secondary thing, the value one get(or may loose) in not attending became primary.

Overall there are good advantage and bonding that happens via social media but ofcourse it should remain optional. I think it's good to note this to staff and should be a minor thing to fix.

Regards

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Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Jul 27, 2017 8:23 PM, "thomascovenant" <thomascovenant at thomascovenant.org<mailto:thomascovenant at thomascovenant.org>> wrote:
Hello,

I am writing about a general matter that can still be quite important to
some.

I respectfully disagree with making Facebook obligatory for ICANN
Fellowship program participation, yet it doesn't seem possible
to question this decision.

Further, the decision to deny fellowship to those who do not comply with
Facebook demand makes no sense to me.

I would welcome diverse participation of FOSS community, privacy
activists and ethical hacking communities in ICANN work. It can be very
valuable.

I don't want any single fellow be forced to compromise their principles
in order to make volunteer contribution to ICANN work (please read the
links below).

At the moment this is solved by forcing to register under a false name,
which is not the right thing to do on behalf of a large organization.

Alternative means of communication should be easily available to those
who ask for them, minor detail of communication platform should not be
the reason to discourage volunteer work.

We also have Chinese and Iranian fellows. Some countries impose FB
cencorship (wiki link below), which can also be an issue...

What are your thoughts on this general subject? And how a good solution
can be found?

Best regards,

Dina Solveig Jalkanen,
grateful for technical fellowship to ICANN60

Resources:

FB Censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook
Some information about Facebook from Richard Stallman:
https://stallman.org/facebook.htm
http://www.salimvirani.com/facebook

>From public Fellowship emails by Siranush Vardanyan
Fellowship Program Manager, Public Responsibility Support, ICANN:

"Last but not least: Social Media I will be creating an ICANN60 Facebook
page which is a required participation for this program.
Those who do not have Facebook page, please, create one, as you will be
asked to join ICANN60 Facebook page."
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* * *
Friendly geek in Amsterdam, FSFE Fellow
https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/User:Thomascovenant
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