[NCUC-DISCUSS] Facebook as an obligatory requirement for being ICANN60 fellow

[Ginger Paque]

Sorry if I misunderstand the relationship between the NCUC and the ICANN
fellowship programme. A good start would be the ICANN fellowship programme
list, or at least a list like this one but including people at the source.
I hope it was clear that I totally agree with the points made. FB is not an
appropriate venue for an ICANN fellowship compulsory group I only think the
discussion should include ICANN fellowship people who can respond and
clarify, which started to happen by including Siranush while I was writing,
and posts were crossing each other, and perhaps should have started with an
email to the ICANN fellowship team (perhaps it did, and I did not catch it).

Not a FB fan, LIsa.
Ginger

Virginia Paque
DiploFoundation



On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:09 PM, McLaughlin, Lisa <mclauglm at miamioh.edu>
wrote:

> Ginger, what would be an appropriate place to discuss ICANN fellowship
> rules? Facebook?
>
> ;-)
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> Regards,
>
> Lisa
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> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Ginger Paque <virginiap at diplomacy.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to discuss ICANN fellowship
>> rules, although I think this is very important. When I was an ICANN fellow,
>> a mailing list was all that was required for online communication.
>> Non-commercial and more private alternatives must be available, especially
>> with ICANN's resources, and Siranush's experience. Also ccing Siranush. I'm
>> glad this is being addressed. Thanks. ginger
>>
>> Virginia Paque
>> DiploFoundation
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>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Normally fellows are encouraged to participate in social media for
>>> experience sharing to somewhat promote the program.
>>>
>>> That said, I agree that the choice of word used by staff seem to imply a
>>> compulsory requirement but I want to believe it's a lower "r" kindof
>>> requirement and they really don't mean it as such.
>>>
>>> When I was a fellow there used to be a 7am fellows session(I think it
>>> still happen) and I will hear Mama J say things in the line of "coming
>>> promptly is a requirement.... don't try me guys". While we don't want to
>>> see the red part of Mama J, some of us that goofed occasionally, found that
>>> it was rather important and in our interest to be prompt as there wasn't a
>>> checkbox that we ultimately has unchecked (if any). So being a requirement
>>> became more of a secondary thing, the value one get(or may loose) in not
>>> attending became primary.
>>>
>>> Overall there are good advantage and bonding that happens via social
>>> media but ofcourse it should remain optional. I think it's good to note
>>> this to staff and should be a minor thing to fix.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile
>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2017 8:23 PM, "thomascovenant" <thomascovenant at thomascovenant
>>> .org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am writing about a general matter that can still be quite important to
>>> some.
>>>
>>> I respectfully disagree with making Facebook obligatory for ICANN
>>> Fellowship program participation, yet it doesn't seem possible
>>> to question this decision.
>>>
>>> Further, the decision to deny fellowship to those who do not comply with
>>> Facebook demand makes no sense to me.
>>>
>>> I would welcome diverse participation of FOSS community, privacy
>>> activists and ethical hacking communities in ICANN work. It can be very
>>> valuable.
>>>
>>> I don't want any single fellow be forced to compromise their principles
>>> in order to make volunteer contribution to ICANN work (please read the
>>> links below).
>>>
>>> At the moment this is solved by forcing to register under a false name,
>>> which is not the right thing to do on behalf of a large organization.
>>>
>>> Alternative means of communication should be easily available to those
>>> who ask for them, minor detail of communication platform should not be
>>> the reason to discourage volunteer work.
>>>
>>> We also have Chinese and Iranian fellows. Some countries impose FB
>>> cencorship (wiki link below), which can also be an issue...
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts on this general subject? And how a good solution
>>> can be found?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Dina Solveig Jalkanen,
>>> grateful for technical fellowship to ICANN60
>>>
>>> Resources:
>>>
>>> FB Censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook
>>> Some information about Facebook from Richard Stallman:
>>> https://stallman.org/facebook.htm
>>> http://www.salimvirani.com/facebook
>>>
>>> From public Fellowship emails by Siranush Vardanyan
>>> Fellowship Program Manager, Public Responsibility Support, ICANN:
>>>
>>> "Last but not least: Social Media I will be creating an ICANN60 Facebook
>>> page which is a required participation for this program.
>>> Those who do not have Facebook page, please, create one, as you will be
>>> asked to join ICANN60 Facebook page."
>>> --
>>> * * *
>>> Friendly geek in Amsterdam, FSFE Fellow
>>> https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/User:Thomascovenant
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