[NCUC-DISCUSS] Facebook as an obligatory requirement for being ICANN60 fellow

[Glenn McKnight]

Hi Stephanie
We have a  Technology Taskforce Meeting next week and I will alert this
issue to Dev and Judith the cochairs to work on alternatives other than
FACEBOOK.  I know lots of folks are looking at alternatives to SKYPE as
well.
I assume that the group also  use  WHATSAPP  as well.
Glenn

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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I totally agree, nobody should have to join Facebook.  They can find
> another way to communicate.  I am quite surprised, as I am also surprised
> to find that  Siranush Vardanyan is now ICANN staff. So how do we best
> argue with this policy?
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> On 2017-07-27 15:48, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
>
> Hi Dina,
>
> Thanks very much for bringing this to our attention. You raise a very
> interesting issue - and I agree, in principle, that signing up for
> Facebook should not be a required component of participating in an
> ICANN Fellowship program.
>
> Would you feel comfortable forwarding or screenshot-ing the email in
> its entirety, just so we can see the full context as a means of
> informing this discussion?
>
> In the interim, and while this discussion goes on, it may be useful if
> you wanted to raise your concerns directly with Siranush, if you
> haven't already. Your objection would seem to me to be a valid one, so
> it might be interesting to see how ICANN might respond.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael Karanicolas
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM, thomascovenant<thomascovenant at thomascovenant.org> <thomascovenant at thomascovenant.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am writing about a general matter that can still be quite important to
> some.
>
> I respectfully disagree with making Facebook obligatory for ICANN
> Fellowship program participation, yet it doesn't seem possible
> to question this decision.
>
> Further, the decision to deny fellowship to those who do not comply with
> Facebook demand makes no sense to me.
>
> I would welcome diverse participation of FOSS community, privacy
> activists and ethical hacking communities in ICANN work. It can be very
> valuable.
>
> I don't want any single fellow be forced to compromise their principles
> in order to make volunteer contribution to ICANN work (please read the
> links below).
>
> At the moment this is solved by forcing to register under a false name,
> which is not the right thing to do on behalf of a large organization.
>
> Alternative means of communication should be easily available to those
> who ask for them, minor detail of communication platform should not be
> the reason to discourage volunteer work.
>
> We also have Chinese and Iranian fellows. Some countries impose FB
> cencorship (wiki link below), which can also be an issue...
>
> What are your thoughts on this general subject? And how a good solution
> can be found?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dina Solveig Jalkanen,
> grateful for technical fellowship to ICANN60
>
> Resources:
>
> FB Censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook
> Some information about Facebook from Richard Stallman:https://stallman.org/facebook.htmhttp://www.salimvirani.com/facebook
>
> From public Fellowship emails by Siranush Vardanyan
> Fellowship Program Manager, Public Responsibility Support, ICANN:
>
> "Last but not least: Social Media I will be creating an ICANN60 Facebook
> page which is a required participation for this program.
> Those who do not have Facebook page, please, create one, as you will be
> asked to join ICANN60 Facebook page."
> --
> * * *
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