[NCUC-DISCUSS] Session on termination of domains for hate speech at ICANN 60

Cláudio Lucena claudiokilla at gmail.com
Sun Aug 20 07:53:59 CEST 2017


I understand James's concern for scope, just like Bill I don't yet know
what to think either, but it seems that Ayden's line that DNS, as a
technical framework, "is being used to determine who can and cannot
disseminate knowledge and opinions" is absolutely enough for us to put this
discussion forward for the time being.

I'd appreciate the discussion taking place and I'd like to join Renata in
trying to put it together also for the Brazilian IGF, where the issue,
however stormy the political environment may be in the country, is not
nearly as tricky as it might be in Abu Dhabi.

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2017-08-19 23:10 GMT-03:00 Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org>:

> On 08/19/2017 05:13 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>
> Being honest, I’m not sure of the relevance to ICANN here.
>
> If we were at a Cloudflare conference I would agree as noted there is no
> process in that space.
>
>
>
> But in ICANN space, there is policy which is being followed to the letter.
> There is no denial of access to infrastructure occurring here. There are
> private companies refusing service, as is their right, and ICANN policy on
> domain transfers within the 60 day window being applied. I don’t see where
> the discussion in the ICANN sphere is needed. No registry has blanket
> denied access to their registry, no RIR has denied access to IP space, and
> ICANN has not issued any policy edicts on the topic.
>
>
>
> I personally wouldn’t support the hosting of such a discussion, as most of
> the unanswered questions exist outside the ICANN space and thus this
> meeting wouldn’t be appropriate venue.
>
>
> I can't really understand why you would say that.  I'm on the Review of
> all RPMs working group, and one of the issues being discussed there (in its
> own subgroup) is the impact of the registries' and registrars' own  terms
> of service that go beyond their responsibilities to ICANN, for example the
> Donuts DPML which creates a layer of trademark protection on top of the
> formal ICANN processes.  Another example was the Healthy Domains
> Initiative, where we kicked up a stink about the PIR proposal for a kind of
> "UDRP for copyright".
>
> This is basically the same type of discussion.  I can't imagine how it
> could be outside the scope of NCUC, unless we are taking a pretty myopic
> view of its mission.
>
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