[NCUC-DISCUSS] Human Rights Session Starting Now at G.03/04

[Stephanie Perrin]

Yes, I can discuss this at some length.  Useful PIA workshop in New 
Zealand in 2003 on this subject.  Consultants have had a long run at 
this, churning out product at atrocious prices that spew back the same 
OECD principles.  However, real work can be done, just as real threat 
risk assessments can be done for security if properly scoped.....great 
debate about frameworks continues. We went from a long form to a short 
form in Canada (federal level) and many departments now, at behest of 
their legal departments, back to their own long forms.  I will leave it 
there, I am good for hours on this particular topic.

Stephanie


On 2016-11-03 08:29, Zalnieriute, Monika wrote:
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> Dear All,
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> During this discussion, as we are in the room, I would like to say 
> that the Privacy Impact Assessments (PIAs), in my view, is hardly 
> something more than the tautology, just like Privacy By Design. Can 
> someone provide me with any evidence, empirical research, or anything 
> at all (beyond the same tautology that PIA is very 
> valuable) pointing they had made any actual difference? I would be 
> grateful for that.
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> I know there has been a massive obsession with PIAs (or 
> maybe exploitation of buzzwords in grantwriting!) in Universiteit 
> Brussels years ago, cooperating with 'Trilateral Research Consulting', 
> and so on. And I share project link
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> http://www.piafproject.eu/
> PIAF - Privacy Impact Assessment Frameworks <http://www.piafproject.eu/>
> www.piafproject.eu
> Home. In some ways, Privacy Impact Assessments (PIAs) are the 
> culmination, in the privacy protection field, of social, political and 
> legal processes of more than 50 ...
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> if someone is interested, to see who is writing it, and what is the 
> EU-funded project on that.
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> Best wishes,
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> Monika
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> Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
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> Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I 
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> Z E P H I R O : Progressive Platform for Human Rights I 
> zephiroplatform.org I
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> Centre for Internet & Human Rights I European University Viadrina I 
> cihr.eu I
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> Niels
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