[NCUC-DISCUSS] 2017 ICANN Meetings
James Gannon
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Wed Mar 16 20:46:59 CET 2016
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2015-12-23-en
Of interest to this discussion I would think
-James
From: Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>> on behalf of Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com<mailto:raquino at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday 16 March 2016 at 7:39 p.m.
To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>
Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] 2017 ICANN Meetings
Hi
Ayden, thank you for unmasking how bizarre and random regional groups are. Not only in ICANN's grouping but so many other important IG venues, who do not really see us for who we are in the LAC region but for artifically connected borders made by governmental and economical powers who do not represent us.
Remote hubs have been an option in LAC. A few local surprises hit hard especially those in universities in last ICANN meetings. Those are the places w/ connectivity but they to depend on immunity to local political turmoils (which hit Venezuela) and agreement w/ federal structures (case of Brazil). Still, we keep on trying. We accept whatever we can get and props to Alyne Andrade and Mark Datysgeld for doing independent courses on IG w/ ICANN in Brazil.
On that note, São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro are different worlds altogether in LAC. There you'll find CGI.br, ITS/FGV-RJ, USP just to name a few. They will likely have heavy remote participation already in ICANN mtgs. Also, transportation isn't an issue.
A hub in the Amazon region, however, would be a first and it is quite a nice idea to entertain but very out of the box, considering our online engagement is primarily via mobile.
As for the future of LAC engagement and the mtgs calendar, I can only wonder.
Bill, thanks for letting us know that staff is studying about Puerto Rico and its possibilities. Please keep us posted. Dengue, Zika and Chikungunya are terrible illnesses, cyclical epidemics and we keep repeating here that they have to be prevented rather than putting out the fire only when the media sees it.
All the best
Renata
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
Hi, all-
The next meeting to be held in Latin America will be a small B-format meeting in 2018. I do think that it is unfortunate that it was not possible to switch this with the large A-format meeting in Copenhagen next year. However, maybe you Renata (or you could suggest this to people you know) could request funding from ICANN's Development & Public Responsibility Programs budget to establish a remote hub in São Paulo or elsewhere in the region so to make it easier for those unable to travel to the meeting to participate? I know it's no substitute for attending a meeting, but I think you could have some success finding funding here…
Also - I'm not sure I understood why the meeting that had originally been scheduled for Panama City was being classed as a Latin American meeting, given Panama is geographically a part of North America? Likewise with the meeting in San Juan? I too hope that San Juan remains the home of ICANN 57, but I don't see how this being the case is going to help any Argentines, Brazilians, Bolivians, Ecuadorians etc participate in outreach programs (which are region-specific) given how bizarrely it seems ICANN groups countries into regions?
Best wishes,
Ayden
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Karel Douglas <douglaskarel at gmail.com<mailto:douglaskarel at gmail.com>> wrote:
The LAC region has lost out and I hope that there will some amends somewhere / somehow.
regards
Karel
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:56 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com<mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi
It’s unclear whether Puerto Rico will be a problem, not only because of Zika, but also Chikungunya, which is pretty serious. http://www.salud.gov.pr/Sobre-tu-Salud/Pages/Condiciones/Chikungunya.aspx Meeting staff will research etc. Hopefully it’s under control by then...
Bill
On Mar 13, 2016, at 19:38, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com<mailto:raquino at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Seun
Thanks for the information about the block allocations.
I'd be one thinking that EOI would also be a good idea.
Criteria for selection could be refined from the replies.
Regards,
Renata
Em 13/03/2016 15:31, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> escreveu:
Hi,
I believe the meeting locations were already predetermined so it was not realistic to change as suggested. As you may know, call to host ICANN meetings are done in block (I think it's 2 years period) and countries who expressed interest during the application window would have been reviewed and selected. In a situation where the meeting venue changes due to unforeseen circumstances, it becomes a plus for any other region that has a country willing to host at such short notice (while still meeting the hosting requirements).
It's usually a difficult one but that is what it is. Personally, I would have preferred that ICANN open a short call for EOI when such happens so other countries in that particular region affected could express their interest. (Although I don't know if it would have helped in this case since the Zika stuff is considered continental)
Regards
Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 13 Mar 2016 12:38 a.m., "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
Hi, all-
The locations for ICANN Meetings in 2017 have been posted: https://meetings.icann.org/en/calendar
ICANN58 is in Copenhagen, ICANN59 is in Johannesburg, and ICANN60 is in Abu Dhabi.
It appears that ICANN57 will remain in San Juan. I'm a little surprised that ICANN58 is going to Europe rather than Latin America, given the change of location of the Panama City meeting…
Best wishes,
Ayden Férdeline
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