[NCUC-DISCUSS] 2017 ICANN Meetings

Wed Mar 16 20:39:57 CET 2016

Hi

Ayden, thank you for unmasking how bizarre and random regional groups are.
Not only in ICANN's grouping but so many other important IG venues, who do
not really see us for who we are in the LAC region but for artifically
connected borders made by governmental and economical powers who do not
represent us.

Remote hubs have been an option in LAC. A few local surprises hit hard
especially those in universities in last ICANN meetings. Those are the
places w/ connectivity but they to depend on immunity to local political
turmoils (which hit Venezuela) and agreement w/ federal structures (case of
Brazil). Still, we keep on trying. We accept whatever we can get and props
to Alyne Andrade and Mark Datysgeld for doing independent courses on IG w/
ICANN in Brazil.

On that note, São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro are different worlds altogether in
LAC. There you'll find CGI.br, ITS/FGV-RJ, USP just to name a few. They
will likely have heavy remote participation already in ICANN mtgs. Also,
transportation isn't an issue.

A hub in the Amazon region, however, would be a first and it is quite a
nice idea to entertain but very out of the box, considering our online
engagement is primarily via mobile.

As for the future of LAC engagement and the mtgs calendar, I can only
wonder.

Bill, thanks for letting us know that staff is studying about Puerto Rico
and its possibilities. Please keep us posted. Dengue, Zika and Chikungunya
are terrible illnesses, cyclical epidemics and we keep repeating here that
they have to be prevented rather than putting out the fire only when the
media sees it.

All the best

Renata

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> Hi, all-
>
> The next meeting to be held in Latin America will be a small B-format
> meeting in 2018. I do think that it is unfortunate that it was not possible
> to switch this with the large A-format meeting in Copenhagen next year.
> However, maybe you Renata (or you could suggest this to people you know)
> could request funding from ICANN's Development & Public Responsibility
> Programs budget to establish a remote hub in São Paulo or elsewhere in the
> region so to make it easier for those unable to travel to the meeting to
> participate? I know it's no substitute for attending a meeting, but I think
> you could have some success finding funding here…
>
> Also - I'm not sure I understood why the meeting that had originally been
> scheduled for Panama City was being classed as a Latin American meeting,
> given Panama is geographically a part of North America? Likewise with the
> meeting in San Juan? I too hope that San Juan remains the home of ICANN 57,
> but I don't see how this being the case is going to help any Argentines,
> Brazilians, Bolivians, Ecuadorians etc participate in outreach programs
> (which are region-specific) given how bizarrely it seems ICANN groups
> countries into regions?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Karel Douglas <douglaskarel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The LAC region has lost out and I hope that there will some amends
>> somewhere / somehow.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Karel
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:56 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> It’s unclear whether Puerto Rico will be a problem, not only because of
>>> Zika, but also Chikungunya, which is pretty serious.
>>> http://www.salud.gov.pr/Sobre-tu-Salud/Pages/Condiciones/Chikungunya.aspx
>>>  Meeting staff will research etc.  Hopefully it’s under control by then...
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2016, at 19:38, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Seun
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information about the block allocations.
>>> I'd be one thinking that EOI would also be a good idea.
>>> Criteria for selection could be refined from the replies.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Renata
>>> Em 13/03/2016 15:31, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I believe the meeting locations were already predetermined so it was
>>>> not realistic to change as suggested. As you may know, call to host ICANN
>>>> meetings are done in block (I think it's 2 years period) and countries who
>>>> expressed interest during the application window would have been reviewed
>>>> and selected. In a situation where the meeting venue changes due to
>>>> unforeseen circumstances, it becomes a plus for any other region that has a
>>>> country willing to host at such short notice (while still meeting the
>>>> hosting requirements).
>>>>
>>>> It's usually a difficult one but that is what it is. Personally, I
>>>> would have preferred that ICANN open a short call for EOI when such happens
>>>> so other countries in that particular region affected could express their
>>>> interest. (Although I don't know if it would have helped in this case since
>>>> the Zika stuff is considered continental)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my LG G4
>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>> On 13 Mar 2016 12:38 a.m., "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all-
>>>>>
>>>>> The locations for ICANN Meetings in 2017 have been posted:
>>>>> https://meetings.icann.org/en/calendar
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN58 is in Copenhagen, ICANN59 is in Johannesburg, and ICANN60 is
>>>>> in Abu Dhabi.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears that ICANN57 will remain in San Juan. I'm a little
>>>>> surprised that ICANN58 is going to Europe rather than Latin America, given
>>>>> the change of location of the Panama City meeting…
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
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