[NCUC-DISCUSS] Panama Papers - privacy, data and media manipulation - Re: Information Internet

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Rights, the Convention privacy Madrid, the European Data Protection
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2016-04-10 15:16 GMT-03:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Hi James,
>
> That is an important clarification - simply because someone appears to own
> a shell company in Panama or elsewhere does not necessarily mean they have
> broken the law. Though if their activities are so kosher, I do not
> understand why politically-sensitive persons in particular have not
> previously declared that they hold interests in these companies. I find it
> hard to believe that the majority of shell companies have been established
> for legitimate purposes (especially when we have certain law firms going
> out and actively encouraging high net worth individuals to break a
> country's tax laws, among other things). If the stories which had emerged
> from the Panama Papers were about people stashing assets in Panama to
> avoid, say, their home government illegally seizing them, that would be one
> thing, but those aren't the stories that I have been reading… I suppose
> this is a topic for another listserv though. But your point is taken -
> people should be innocent until proven guilty, and there are legitimate
> reasons for shell companies.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 6:00 PM, James Gannon james at cyberinvasion.net wrote:
>
>> Hmm I don’t know if I agree with this as it seems to make the assumption
>> that forming a shell company in Panama can only be for nefarious or corrupt
>> reasons which is just not the facts of the matter. And its very unforuntate
>> that the two classes of companies or uses are bunched togher in any debate
>> that I’ve seen around the Panama Papers releases.
>>
>> Plenty of genuine reasons for doing so that are not for illegal reasons
>> or reasons to undermine public goods.
>>
>> -James
>>
>> From: Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of
>> Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> Date: Sunday 10 April 2016 at 5:48 p.m.
>> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>,
>> NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Panama Papers - privacy, data and media
>> manipulation - Re: Information Internet
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Re: debate on privacy (though I prefer the term 'secrecy')
>>
>> The fundamental *human* right to privacy is not the same as the 'right'
>> to keep your crimes secret. I would also argue that 1) shell companies
>> aren't humans (though they might be persons in some territories), and 2)
>> corruption thrives on secrecy. And because even a broken clock is right
>> twice day, I will quote Michael Moore... “Openness, transparency — these
>> are among the few weapons the citizenry has to protect itself from the
>> powerful and the corrupt”.
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>
>
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