<div dir="ltr"><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span>Spectacular!!</span> <span>Renata</span> <span class="">Thanks</span><span>.</span> <span>There should be</span> <span>a treaty</span> <span>at the International Level</span> <span>Data</span> <span>Privacy</span> <span>in</span> <span>the global</span> <span class="">comunuidad</span><span class="">, apart from the</span> <span>statements</span> <span>of</span> <span>Human Rights</span><span>,</span> <span>the</span> <span>Convention</span> <span>privacy</span> <span>Madrid</span><span>,</span> <span class="">the European</span> <span class="">Data Protection</span> <span>Regulation</span><span>,</span> <span>etc.</span> <span>And the debate</span> <span>on education and</span> <span>culture</span> <span>encryption</span> <span class="">seems to</span> <span class="">me</span> <span class="">fundamental.</span> <span class="">a cordial greeting</span></span></div><div id="DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid #aaabb6">
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<div><font>Hi James,</font></div><div><font><br></font></div><div><font>That is an important clarification - simply because someone appears to own a shell company in Panama or elsewhere does not necessarily mean they have broken the law. Though if their activities are so kosher, I do not understand why politically-sensitive persons in particular have not previously declared that they hold interests in these companies. I find it hard to believe that the majority of shell companies have been established for legitimate purposes (especially when we have certain law firms going out and actively encouraging high net worth individuals to break a country's tax laws, among other things). If the stories which had emerged from the Panama Papers were about people stashing assets in Panama to avoid, say, their home government illegally seizing them, that would be one thing, but those aren't the stories that I have been reading… I suppose this is a topic for another listserv though. But your point is taken - people should be innocent until proven guilty, and there are legitimate reasons for shell companies.</font></div><div><font><br></font></div><div><font>Best wishes,</font></div><div><font><br>Ayden</font></div><img style="border:0;width:0px;min-height:0px" src="https://app.mixmax.com/api/track/v2/ZyizEywsHdP8PBe99/i02bj5SZulGblRmclZGQu5WYjlmI/IyZy9mLjV3Yu5yc0NXasB0czV3YzlGZtMWdj5mI/IyczV3YzlGZtMUVD5kI?sc=false" alt="" height="0" width="0" align="left">
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On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 6:00 PM, James Gannon <span dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a></span>
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<div>Hmm I don’t know if I agree with this as it seems to make the assumption that forming a shell company in Panama can only be for nefarious or corrupt reasons which is just not the facts of the matter. And its very unforuntate that the two classes of companies
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<div>Plenty of genuine reasons for doing so that are not for illegal reasons or reasons to undermine public goods.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Ncuc-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Sunday 10 April 2016 at 5:48 p.m.<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>>, NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Panama Papers - privacy, data and media manipulation - Re: Information Internet<br>
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<div><font>The fundamental<span> </span><i>human</i><span> </span>right to privacy is not the same as the 'right' to keep your crimes secret. I would also argue that 1) shell companies aren't humans
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