[NCUC-DISCUSS] Fwd: Results of the First New gTLD Auction | ICANN New gTLDs
Nicolas Adam
nickolas.adam at gmail.com
Fri Jun 6 16:40:01 CEST 2014
I agree. In scarce + critical resource settings with a concentrated
market (high HHI) it may be wise to limit certain players' access to
auctions (who may value the resource for defensive purposes with
competition-harming effects, think spectrum).
But here, I see no problem whatever. And I furthermore think that the
namespace is a rather endless semiotic resource so ... unless there is
evidence of great concentration and defensive moves foreclosing markets
.... I think auctions are a good way to settle.
And I agree that as Non-comms we should be wary of exposing ourselves as
ideologically anti-business per se.
Nicolas
On 06/06/2014 10:00 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
> This is good example of why people often don't take civil society
> seriously.
>
> You have here an incident in which a developing country bidder
> (Beijing Tele-Info network) just outbid a well-established, incumbent
> developed country company (Afilias). And Avri is moaning that an
> auction discriminates against developing countries!
>
> We have direct evidence of the opposite of her claim. If this were
> based on a beauty contest, on a discretionary board decision based on
> <cough> "merit," who do you think would have won -- the incumbent with
> strong ties to ICANN staff and board, or the developing country?
>
> Auctions are not a measure of "who has the most money," Auctions
> measure who values something the most. I can have substantially less
> capital than you but value something more than you and either raise
> the money to outbid you or find the resources myself. I suspect that
> Afilias has more money than that Beijing company, they just didn't
> value the '.info" domain in Chinese more than the Chinese company,
> based on their calculations of what they could make from the resource.
>
> True, money is the measure of value here, and thus auctions are best
> for resolving contention among commercial parties, but making money is
> in fact what is going on with about 90% of the cases here. And in even
> noncommercial cases, when nonprofits lease office space, hire labor,
> buy professional services, etc, they are "bidding against" everyone
> else in the economy. No one thinks there should be a special community
> board to decide what the price of an office should be for the
> "special" case of noncommercial use.
>
> Auctions look even better when you start comparing them to non-auction
> based contention resolution. If not auctions, what? Answer: pure
> politics. Lobbying, favor-mongering, corruption. All of which costs
> money. People who don't like auctions typically have a quasi-religious
> belief that for any given name, there is One True Owner who has a
> God-given right to it, and a non-economic process can magically and
> without error locate that One True and Just Owner. I say that's B.S..
> The problem is that these religious claims, being, well, religious,
> cannot be resolved in any rational way.
>
> *From:*ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org
> [mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] *On Behalf Of *Eranga
> Samararathna
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 5, 2014 3:51 AM
> *To:* Avri Doria
> *Cc:* NCUC-discuss
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Fwd: Results of the First New gTLD
> Auction | ICANN New gTLDs
>
> Hi,
>
> Money should not be the last resort for resolution.
>
> Eranga.
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 05-Jun-14 09:25, William Drake wrote:
> > Economists love auctions and they do raise cash, but one wonders how
> > suitable this procedure will be if we ever have contestation
> involving
> > less well resourced applicants from developing countries, civil
> society,
> > etc...
> >
>
> deep pockets win.
> communities lose
>
> but no one in power at ICANN cares about communities
>
> and if there had been applicants from developing countries or , they
> would also lose
>
> and no one in power at ICANN cares about developing economies.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> > Bill
> >
> >>
> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/announcements-and-media/announcement-3-04jun14-en
> >>
> >>
> >> Results of the First New gTLD Auction
> >>
> >> On 4 June 2014 ICANN through its authorized auction services
> provider,
>
> >> Power Auctions LLC <http://www.powerauctions.com/>, completed the
>
> >> first auction to resolve a contention set for a new generic
> Top-level
> >> Domain (gTLD) string. Contention sets are groups of
> applications for
> >> identical or confusingly similar strings.
> >> Two applicants, Afilias Limited and Beijing Tele-info Network
> >> Technology Co., LTD. applied for the gTLD ??, (xn--vuq861b), which
> >> is a Chinese Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) for
> "information" or
> >> "info." These two applicants were unable to resolve the
> contention set
> >> between themselves, and thus proceeded to an auction, which is the
> >> method of last resort to resolve string contentions as
> prescribed in
> >> Module 4 of the Applicant Guidebook. Beijing Tele-info Network
> >> Technology Co., LTD. prevailed in the auction for the winning
> price of
> >> $600,000. Additional bidding information is available in the
> auction
> >> report
>
> >>
> <http://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/tlds/xn--vuq861b/xn--vuq861b-auction-results-04jun14-en.pdf>
>
> >> [PDF, 225 KB]. Subject to payment of the Winning Price and
> meeting all
> >> other criteria for eligibility, the winner will begin the
> contracting
> >> process to sign a Registry Agreement to operate the ??,
> >> (xn--vuq861b) gTLD.
> >> This was the first auction for the New gTLD program. Subsequent
> >> auctions are scheduled
>
> >>
> <http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions/schedule-29may14-en.pdf>
>
> >> [PDF, 306 KB] to occur on a monthly basis throughout 2014 and into
> >> early 2015. The auction events are designed to accommodate
> resolving
> >> multiple contention sets simultaneously.
> >> For more information on Auctions visit
> >> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions.
> >> To view the current contention set status visit:
> >>
> https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/stringcontentionstatus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> David A. Olive
> >> Vice President, Policy Development Support
> >> General Manager, ICANN Regional Headquarters --Istanbul
> >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >>
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> >> *
> >>
> >
> > ***********************************************
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> > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> > University of Zurich, Switzerland
> > Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>
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