[NCUC-DISCUSS] Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
Marilia Maciel
mariliamaciel at gmail.com
Thu Feb 13 19:00:18 CET 2014
I would very much appreciate an enlightment about this as well. Still on my
learning curve.
Best
Marilia
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> I am sorry to use the terms, but my point was really one of who do board
> members represent, when they are nominated and elected? Can you please
> explain how this nomination process works? I have read the materials and I
> am no wiser. When I say Bill is "nice" I mean, he is sympathetic to
> various perspectives. My question is, was he nominated because he
> represented civil society (through the Internet Society, or ALAC, or which
> constituency) and if as Bill D says he was elected by the business
> constituency, then is it a requirement to figure out who would be accepted
> by the business constituency??
> Replace strident with "an effective and passionate advocate for civil
> society, insofar as it has collectively identified its issues and
> strategies".
> cheers Stephanie
> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hmmmm.... not sure if we should use concepts like "very nice" and
> > "strident" in our nominations/elections criteria.
> >
> > IMHO
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
> > On 02/13/2014 02:36 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> >> How did Bill win the last time? I have known Bill for years, he is a
> very nice guy, but I must say I am still puzzled about the politics.
> >> The next question is has he done a good job? and how does one evaluate
> the efficacy of Board members, given a certain lack of transparency in what
> they are busy doing. the next question is does the current ICANN embrace
> of multistakeholderism increase the likelihood that a more strident
> representative of civil society might be voted in?
> >> steph
> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Just checking:
> >>>
> >>> Are you suggesting that each of NCUC and NPOC pick someone and then we
> have a NCSG primary for its pick?
> >>>
> >>> Not that I am recommending it, might be interesting though.
> >>>
> >>> What we do not have is a process for picking a candidate. Last time,
> I talk to bunch of people and put myself forward - no one objected (seeing
> how i did, perhaps they should have - strategically I mean)
> >>>
> >>> In any case I think this is the sort of thing that NCSG EC/PC had
> better figure out quickly.
> >>>
> >>> In any case, I plan to put my self forward again for the NCSG/NCUC
> consideration for a rematch - I won the first ballot, he the second, who
> would win the third?
> >>>
> >>> Though perhaps we could find a better strategic choice. We need a
> candidate who can get some of the CSG votes, otherwise we don't stand a
> chance. Also while a candidate can sometimes count on SG support in the
> first round of an election, it is very hard to hold all of the SG votes in
> a second round. I think this is a general rule of such rounds of voting.
> In that case the one with the stronger unifying force tends to be
> persuasive.
> >>>
> >>> avri
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13-Feb-14 06:14, William Drake wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> Among the many things we need to do is decide who we would like to
> >>>> represent the non contracted house party on the ICANN board. The
> >>>> current occupant is Bill Graham, who was elected by the business folks
> >>>> with NomCom participant support (we'd proposed Avri). I expect Bill
> >>>> will stand for reelection.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill
> >>>>
> >>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>
> >>>>> *From: *Glen de Saint Géry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
> >>>>> *Subject: **RE: Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures
> 2011*
> >>>>> *Date: *February 13, 2014 at 10:15:21 AM GMT+1
> >>>>> *To: *"Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com
> >>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, "tony holmes (
> tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
> >>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
> >>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
> >>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
> >>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>, Rafik Dammak
> >>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>, William
> >>>>> Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>,
> >>>>> "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
> >>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>)" <mllemineur at gmail.com
> >>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, "Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
> >>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)" <dan-reed at uiowa.edu
> >>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>
> >>>>> *Cc: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
> >>>>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, Erika Randall
> >>>>> <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org>>, David
> >>>>> Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Kristina,
> >>>>> Per ICANN's Counsel, Erika Randall whom I asked to confirm the date
> of
> >>>>> the written notice, she confirmed as follows:
> >>>>>> Yes, you will need to give a written notice to the ICANN Secretary
> by
> >>>>> April 16, 2014 of the person selected for Board Seat 14. (This is the
> >>>>> date six months prior to the ICANN Annual General Meeting >scheduled
> >>>>> to be held in Los Angeles on October 16, 2014).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please advise what timelines the Non Contracted Parties House
> >>>>> suggests for the process.
> >>>>> Thank you very much.
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Glen
> >>>>> *De :*Rosette, Kristina [mailto:krosette at cov.com]
> >>>>> *Envoyé :*mercredi 12 février 2014 21:23
> >>>>> *À :*Glen de Saint Géry; tony holmes(tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
> >>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>);elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
> >>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>; Rafik Dammak; William Drake;
> >>>>> marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
> >>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>); Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
> >>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)
> >>>>> *Cc :*Marika Konings; Erika Randall; David Olive
> >>>>> *Objet :*RE: Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
> >>>>> With apologies as I suspect I may not be taking everything into
> >>>>> account, am I correct in thinking that the Call for Nominations
> (under
> >>>>> the GNSO Operating Procedures) opens in May because Bill's term ends
> >>>>> in October? And, if so, we need to have the House procedures
> >>>>> finalized by the end of April (which means we have some time)?
> >>>>> K
> >>>>> *From:*Glen de Saint Géry [mailto:Glen at icann.org]
> >>>>> *Sent:*Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:26 AM
> >>>>> *To:*Rosette, Kristina; tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
> >>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>);elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
> >>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>; Rafik Dammak; William Drake;
> >>>>> marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
> >>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>); Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
> >>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)
> >>>>> *Cc:*Marika Konings; Erika Randall; David Olive; Glen de Saint Géry
> >>>>> *Subject:*Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
> >>>>> To : Non Contracted Parties House
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In preparation for the Non Contracted Parties House Election for
> Board
> >>>>> Seat 14, it has come to our notice that the attached 2011 Election
> >>>>> Procedures were not posted in accordance with theGNSO Operating
> >>>>> Procedures
> >>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>.
> Would
> >>>>> you please be so kind as to confirm these voting procedures so that
> >>>>> they can be included as required under theGNSO Operating Procedures.
> >>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Election procedures are defined in theGNSO Operating Procedures
> >>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>.
> >>>>> 2.4 Board Seat Elections
> >>>>> 2.4.3 Detailed Election Procedures
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Each House is responsible for establishing its own internal
> procedures
> >>>>> for nominations,
> >>>>> interviews, voting, and candidate selection; however, those processes
> >>>>> must be documented
> >>>>> and forwarded to the GNSO Council for inclusion as ANNEXES to the
> GNSO
> >>>>> Operating
> >>>>> Procedures. If a House subsequently elects to alter its procedures,
> >>>>> such amendments must be
> >>>>> submitted to the GNSO Council before becoming effective so that the
> >>>>> procedures accurately
> >>>>> reflect the actual processes and activities performed by each House
> in
> >>>>> selecting its candidate.
> >>>>> Thank you for your urgent attention to this.
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>> Glen
> >>>>> Glen de Saint Géry
> >>>>> GNSO Secretariat
> >>>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
> >>>>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
> >>>>
> >>>> ***********************************************
> >>>> William J. Drake
> >>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
> >>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> >>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
> >>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
> >>>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
> >>>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct),
> >>>> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
> >>>> www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org>
> >>>> ***********************************************
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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*Marília Maciel*
Pesquisadora Gestora
Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
Researcher and Coordinator
Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
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