[NCUC-DISCUSS] Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011

Thu Feb 13 18:30:37 CET 2014

I am sorry to use the terms, but my point was really one of who do board members represent, when they are nominated and elected?  Can you please explain how this nomination process works?  I have read the materials and I am no wiser.  When I say Bill is “nice” I mean, he is sympathetic to various perspectives.  My question is, was he nominated because he represented civil society (through the Internet Society, or ALAC, or which constituency) and if as Bill D says he was elected by the business constituency, then is it a requirement to figure out who would be accepted by the business constituency??
Replace strident with “an effective and passionate advocate for civil society, insofar as it has collectively identified its issues and strategies”.
cheers Stephanie
On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Hmmmm.... not sure if we should use concepts like "very nice" and
> "strident" in our nominations/elections criteria.
> 
> IMHO
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 02/13/2014 02:36 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> How did Bill win the last time?  I have known Bill for years, he is a very nice guy, but I must say I am still puzzled about the politics.  
>> The next question is has he done a good job?  and how does one evaluate the efficacy of Board members, given a certain lack of transparency in what they are busy doing.  the next question is does the current ICANN embrace of multistakeholderism increase the likelihood that a more strident representative of civil society might be voted in?  
>> steph
>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just checking:
>>> 
>>> Are you suggesting that each of NCUC and NPOC pick someone and then we have a NCSG primary for its pick?
>>> 
>>> Not that I am recommending it, might be interesting though.
>>> 
>>> What we do not have is a process for picking a candidate.  Last time, I talk to bunch of people and put myself forward - no one objected (seeing how i did, perhaps they should have - strategically I mean)
>>> 
>>> In any case I think this is the sort of thing that NCSG EC/PC had better figure out quickly.
>>> 
>>> In any case, I plan to put my self forward again for the NCSG/NCUC consideration for a rematch - I won the first ballot, he the second, who would win the third?
>>> 
>>> Though perhaps we could find a better strategic choice. We need a candidate who can get some of the CSG votes, otherwise we don't stand a chance. Also while a candidate can sometimes count on SG support in the first round of an election, it is very hard to hold all of the SG votes in a second round.  I think this is a general rule of such rounds of voting.  In that case the one with the stronger unifying force tends to be persuasive.
>>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13-Feb-14 06:14, William Drake wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> Among the many things we need to do is decide who we would like to
>>>> represent the non contracted house party on the ICANN board.  The
>>>> current occupant is Bill Graham, who was elected by the business folks
>>>> with NomCom participant support (we’d proposed Avri).  I expect Bill
>>>> will stand for reelection.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> *From: *Glen de Saint Géry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>>> *Subject: **RE: Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011*
>>>>> *Date: *February 13, 2014 at 10:15:21 AM GMT+1
>>>>> *To: *"Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com
>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>, Rafik Dammak
>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>, William
>>>>> Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>,
>>>>> "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>)" <mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, "Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)" <dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>
>>>>> *Cc: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, Erika Randall
>>>>> <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org>>, David
>>>>> Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Kristina,
>>>>> Per ICANN’s Counsel, Erika Randall whom I asked to confirm the date of
>>>>> the written notice, she confirmed as follows:
>>>>>> Yes, you will need to give a written notice to the ICANN Secretary by
>>>>> April 16, 2014 of the person selected for Board Seat 14. (This is the
>>>>> date six months prior to the ICANN Annual General Meeting >scheduled
>>>>> to be held in Los Angeles on October 16, 2014).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please advise what timelines  the Non Contracted Parties House
>>>>> suggests for the process.
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glen
>>>>> *De :*Rosette, Kristina [mailto:krosette at cov.com]
>>>>> *Envoyé :*mercredi 12 février 2014 21:23
>>>>> *À :*Glen de Saint Géry; tony holmes(tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>);elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>; Rafik Dammak; William Drake;
>>>>> marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>); Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)
>>>>> *Cc :*Marika Konings; Erika Randall; David Olive
>>>>> *Objet :*RE: Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
>>>>> With apologies as I suspect I may not be taking everything into
>>>>> account, am I correct in thinking that the Call for Nominations (under
>>>>> the GNSO Operating Procedures) opens in May because Bill’s term ends
>>>>> in October?  And, if so, we need to have the House procedures
>>>>> finalized by the end of April (which means we have some time)?
>>>>> K
>>>>> *From:*Glen de Saint Géry [mailto:Glen at icann.org]
>>>>> *Sent:*Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:26 AM
>>>>> *To:*Rosette, Kristina; tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>);elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>; Rafik Dammak; William Drake;
>>>>> marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>); Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)
>>>>> *Cc:*Marika Konings; Erika Randall; David Olive; Glen de Saint Géry
>>>>> *Subject:*Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
>>>>> To : Non Contracted Parties House
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In preparation for the Non Contracted Parties House Election for Board
>>>>> Seat 14, it has come to our notice that the attached 2011 Election
>>>>> Procedures were not posted in accordance with theGNSO Operating
>>>>> Procedures
>>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>. Would
>>>>> you please be so kind as to confirm these voting procedures so that
>>>>> they can be included as required under theGNSO Operating Procedures.
>>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Election procedures are defined in theGNSO Operating Procedures
>>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>.
>>>>> 2.4 Board Seat Elections
>>>>> 2.4.3 Detailed Election Procedures
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each House is responsible for establishing its own internal procedures
>>>>> for nominations,
>>>>> interviews, voting, and candidate selection; however, those processes
>>>>> must be documented
>>>>> and forwarded to the GNSO Council for inclusion as ANNEXES to the GNSO
>>>>> Operating
>>>>> Procedures. If a House subsequently elects to alter its procedures,
>>>>> such amendments must be
>>>>> submitted to the GNSO Council before becoming effective so that the
>>>>> procedures accurately
>>>>> reflect the actual processes and activities performed by each House in
>>>>> selecting its candidate.
>>>>> Thank you for your urgent attention to this.
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Glen
>>>>> Glen de Saint Géry
>>>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
>>>> 
>>>> ***********************************************
>>>> William J. Drake
>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>>  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>>  University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>>>>  ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct),
>>>> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>>>> www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org>
>>>> ***********************************************
>>>> 
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