[NCUC-DISCUSS] [] Out of contact

William Drake william.drake at uzh.ch
Sat Jun 29 18:46:12 CEST 2013


Hi

On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:

> On Jun 28 14:47, William Drake (william.drake at uzh.ch) wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Chair chooses, EC approves.
>>> 
>>> or a mid point;
>>> 
>>> Chair chooses, EC can overrule.
>>> 
>>> But makes no sense to leave the EC out of the process.
>> 
>> Nope. I would be rather surprised if a chair were to seek to appoint
>> an interim EC member without coordinating with the EC, and indeed
>> with the membership.
> 
> Not in the present situation, no, nobody'd expect you to do that,
> but stranger things have happened - small volunteer-driven
> organizations are not immune to hostile takeover attempts.
> 
> And the discussion has also been about how the bylaws should be
> adjusted to avoid such ambiguities in the future, and in that
> context I think Avri's suggestions are good.
> 
>> I had hoped we could perform this seemingly innocuous task
>> reasonably quickly so I could get some help on board with Durban
>> work etc., but if we prefer to convene a constitutional convention
>> on the matter, ok.
> 
> I don't see how simply having the EC decide on the issue when the
> bylaws are unclear amounts to "convening a constitutional convention"
> or indeed why it should slow things down much at all.

It is five days and 27 messages since I replied to Norbert's resignation message and suggested following the only procedure we have for someone leaving office,  Bylaws VII.  Anyway,  can we agree to an interpretation thereof under which the chair appoints an interim as specified only after having consulted members here and then worked in the EC to get rough consensus per usual, and if that proves impossible, after the EC votes (we have no voting guidelines either, cross that bridge if we come to it).  

Thanks

Bill 
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