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[Ginger Paque]

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On 27 June 2013 06:32, Nuno Garcia <ngarcia at ngarcia.net> wrote:

> Let me reinforce my idea of calling in the second most voted.
>
> I just checked:
> Norbert had 66 votes
> Mary Wong had 65 votes.
>
> It makes a lot of sense to call Mary Wong to fill in Asia representative
> position, and in my point of view, it still preserves the democraticity and
> transparency of the process.
>
> WR
>
> Nuno
>
> On 27 June 2013 12:30, Nuno Garcia <ngarcia at ngarcia.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear all, let me chip in.
>>
>> Last year, Konstantinos resigned and he was EC Chair. So David was
>> proposed (I don't remember by whom), and we all second the proposal, so he
>> eventually was nominated chair.
>>
>> I am in favor of keeping things simple - and at the same time, proposing
>> a change in the bylaws.
>>
>> So, in my point of view, I propose that the second most voted member for
>> Asia takes place over Norbert. If there was no other candidate, I propose
>> the chair nominates someone to fill in the position, and this be voted
>> among EC members.
>>
>> The term is very short, and if you are going to have elections again for
>> this position, it will be a month before someone starts the job.
>>
>> Finally, I advise to change the bylaws as to allow the second most voted
>> (and third and so on) to be automatically nominated in case of position
>> vacancy.
>>
>> WR,
>>
>> Nuno
>>
>>
>> On 27 June 2013 08:35, Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 26 11:21, Robin Gross (robin at ipjustice.org) wrote:
>>>
>>> > I don't believe we should allow a seat to remain vacant. The
>>> > membership very much needs "all hands on deck" in carrying out our
>>> > workload and too much depends upon affirmative decisions and actions
>>> > from the EC.
>>>
>>> Agreed. But:
>>>
>>> > So if a member of the EC resigns with less than 6 months remaining
>>> > in his term, I'd support having the NCUC Chair make that temporary
>>> > appointment after holding a consultation with the membership on the
>>> > matter.
>>>
>>> The bylaws do not give the Chair that power. There's no way to read it
>>> so that Norbert both resigned voluntarily as per VII A and at the same
>>> time was "deemed to resign" as per VII C, even if it was agreed (I don't)
>>> that his limited participation was equivalent to failing to vote four
>>> consequtive times.
>>>
>>> The bylaws leave the matter open. As I see it, NCUC has only one
>>> decision-making body, and that is the executive committee.
>>> The bylaws do leave quite a lot of latitude for the Chair to act on
>>> his own, but in this case it would mean the Chair making a decision
>>> to extend his own powers, and that is very bad form, IMHO.
>>>
>>> Having the EC do the same, i.e., to directly complement itself,
>>> would be only marginally better.
>>>
>>> I would suggest the closest to proper procedure here would be to have
>>> the EC make a formal decision either to authorize the Chair to select
>>> the new Asia representative or to organize a new election.
>>> After hearing the membership, of course.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tapani Tarvainen
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