[NCUC-DISCUSS] Out of contact

[Carlos A. Afonso]

This is a good proposal, amounting to considering the other most voted
people as automatic substitutes. I guess this should be in the statutes,
but we can do it right now by consensus.

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 06/27/2013 08:30 AM, Nuno Garcia wrote:
> Dear all, let me chip in.
> 
> Last year, Konstantinos resigned and he was EC Chair. So David was proposed
> (I don't remember by whom), and we all second the proposal, so he
> eventually was nominated chair.
> 
> I am in favor of keeping things simple - and at the same time, proposing a
> change in the bylaws.
> 
> So, in my point of view, I propose that the second most voted member for
> Asia takes place over Norbert. If there was no other candidate, I propose
> the chair nominates someone to fill in the position, and this be voted
> among EC members.
> 
> The term is very short, and if you are going to have elections again for
> this position, it will be a month before someone starts the job.
> 
> Finally, I advise to change the bylaws as to allow the second most voted
> (and third and so on) to be automatically nominated in case of position
> vacancy.
> 
> WR,
> 
> Nuno
> 
> On 27 June 2013 08:35, Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 26 11:21, Robin Gross (robin at ipjustice.org) wrote:
>>
>>> I don't believe we should allow a seat to remain vacant. The
>>> membership very much needs "all hands on deck" in carrying out our
>>> workload and too much depends upon affirmative decisions and actions
>>> from the EC.
>>
>> Agreed. But:
>>
>>> So if a member of the EC resigns with less than 6 months remaining
>>> in his term, I'd support having the NCUC Chair make that temporary
>>> appointment after holding a consultation with the membership on the
>>> matter.
>>
>> The bylaws do not give the Chair that power. There's no way to read it
>> so that Norbert both resigned voluntarily as per VII A and at the same
>> time was "deemed to resign" as per VII C, even if it was agreed (I don't)
>> that his limited participation was equivalent to failing to vote four
>> consequtive times.
>>
>> The bylaws leave the matter open. As I see it, NCUC has only one
>> decision-making body, and that is the executive committee.
>> The bylaws do leave quite a lot of latitude for the Chair to act on
>> his own, but in this case it would mean the Chair making a decision
>> to extend his own powers, and that is very bad form, IMHO.
>>
>> Having the EC do the same, i.e., to directly complement itself,
>> would be only marginally better.
>>
>> I would suggest the closest to proper procedure here would be to have
>> the EC make a formal decision either to authorize the Chair to select
>> the new Asia representative or to organize a new election.
>> After hearing the membership, of course.
>>
>> --
>> Tapani Tarvainen
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