[NCSG-Discuss] GNSO applicants to the ATRT2 team

[Alex Gakuru]

Regards this, I deliberately chose  to make up my mind on and deal with
*all* persons from the neck upwards. Pleased that it saved me a reasonable
number of illogical arguments.

--sent from a handheld-- excuse brevity and any typos--
On Jan 31, 2013 7:24 PM, "Carl Smith" <lectriclou at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks David,
>
> I have no problem with the geographic point, but If our best choice is a
> woman then what is the problem?  To me, the one of whom we have the
> greatest confidence is who will serve our joint interests best.  I look to
> the minds and hearts of those I support.  There are still bigots in the
> world and surely that will continue to need addressing.  Though often
> hidden from view.  If the females of the world are to be our leaders
> because they have the right stuff, we are better for that.  Are men afraid
> of loosing their machismo?
>
> Sorry for the rant, but I see this gender thing as demeaning to those who
> have worked to get to the position which they have rightfully earned.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lou
>
> On 1/30/2013 12:37 PM, David Cake wrote:
>
> FWIW, only one GNSO endorsed candidate was required to meet gender
> diversity requirements, and both applicants from NCSG were women, so NCSG
> was inevitably going to meet the gender diversity requirements for the
> council, and so gender diversity was not at issue for this selection. One
> applicant from the Registries was a woman, but they did not choose to
> advance them as a candidate for endorsements.
>
>  The diversity requirement that is relevant to the council endorsement
> decision was geographical diversity - we have ended up with four GNSO
> endorsed candidates from North America. There was an option for the council
> to endorse two extra candidates to satisfy geographical diversity
> requirements, one each from NCSG (Marie-Laure) and CSG, but the contracted
> parties did not vote for it.
>
>  Regards
>  David
>
>  On 30/01/2013, at 8:38 AM, Carl Smith <lectriclou at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>  Thanks Bill,
>
> Is this a solution looking for a problem or is there a problem of which I
> am unaware.  Seems to me, we have tried to get the representation with
> confidence in mind.  I know we talked about diversity with agreement.  But
> if our best representation is not of the right sex......?  I for one just
> want our consensus to be aggressively pursued by whom ever we feel most
> confident.  I never got the impression any of us was a bigot.  We have a
> liberty minded group, I believe.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lou
>
> On 1/29/2013 9:51 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi Alain
>
>  The process agreed agreed June 2010
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/aoc-reviews is that
>
>  "If the list does not meet the above mentioned diversity objectives,
> the Council as a whole may choose to endorse up to two additional
> candidates from the applicant pool who would help to give the list of GNSO
> nominees the desired balance. In this case, the Council would hold a vote
> during its teleconference, with sixty percent support of both houses
> represented in the Council being required for endorsement. If no candidate
> obtains that level of support, the list of endorsements obtained via the
> bottom-up process of stakeholder group nominations will be deemed final and
> forwarded to ICANN."
>
>  So the additional nominees would be of the GNSO generally, not of the
> houses or SGs.  The CPH stance was thus technically fine, just
> ill-considered.
>
>  Best,
>
>  Bill
>
>  On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Robin,
>
>  Did not know it was an option for contracting parties to block
> non-contracted parties additional candidates. Is that the right
> interpretation? Did  they also blocked additional candidates that would
> have added gender diversity?
>
>  Alain
>
> On Monday, January 28, 2013, Robin Gross wrote:
>
>>  I am told that the contracting parties blocked all additional candidates
>> that would have added some geo diversity to the group.  That part is
>> disappointing.
>>
>>
>>  Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>  *From: *"Jonathan Robinson" <jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>
>> *Date: *January 27, 2013 12:49:41 PM PST
>> *To: *"Steve Crocker" <steve at shinkuro.com>, <Heather.Dryden at ic.gc.ca>, <
>> jeannie.ellers at icann.org>
>> *Cc: *<council at gnso.icann.org>, <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, <
>> krosette at cov.com>, "tony holmes" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, "William
>> Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch>, <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, <
>> robin at ipjustice.org>, "'KEITH DRAZEK'" <kdrazek at Verisign.com>, "Matt
>> Serlin" <matt.serlin at markmonitor.com>
>> *Subject: **GNSO applicants to the ATRT2 team*
>>
>>  Dear Steve, Dear Heather,
>>
>>
>> Please see attached letter regarding appointment of applicants arising
>> from within the GNSO to the ATRT2 team.
>>
>>
>> Thank-you for giving this matter your attention.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Robinson
>>
>> Chair
>>
>> ICANN GNSO Council
>>
>>
>> jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com
>>
>> skype: jonathan.m.r
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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