[NCSG-Discuss] A Question
Kathy Kleiman
kathy at KATHYKLEIMAN.COM
Mon Feb 11 18:00:40 CET 2013
A huge smile for Magaly who keeps everything in perspective... and keeps
everyone smiling!
Tx Magaly :-),
Kathy
:
> People, please be relax... it is carnival and the Pope has resigned!
> Let's celebrate!
> Websites, wikis etc. are always a working in progress... I am happy
> that there are vonlunteers and icann staff working on that :-)
> Magaly
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>
> cheers
>
> avri
>
> On 11 Feb 2013, at 00:03, Edward Morris wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying that Avri.
> >
> > I assume this was informal?
>
> There was not vote on the issue if that is what you mean by formal.
>
> >
> > One of the best parts of transparency is everyone knows who made
> what decision. That way displeasure or approval are directed at
> the proper parties.
> >
>
> It was done on the NCSG-PC list, which has an open archive
> <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/> which everyone
> in the world is free to peruse any time they wish.
>
>
> > At NCUC we now know we can't count on the stability of our
> confluence presence should our NCSG colleagues have a change of
> heart. As such, we can act appropriately in redesigning our web
> presence.
> >
>
> As far as i know, the NCUC has chosen NOT to use the confluence
> wiki, whereas NCSG has, and it looks like NPOC has as well.
>
> Other then making any references to the NCUC that are appropriate,
> I see NO connection between the NCSG wiki and the NCUC wiki.
>
> Certainly I think it will be useful to track any statements that
> might come out of the NCUC or NPOC on the NCSG wiki and thus have
> attempted to take that into the account in the tables I am
> proposing for tracking the NCSG-PC's work.
>
> But the NCUC should feel free to do whatever it pleases in terms
> of establishing its own wiki. I do not see why NCSG wiki
> decisions have any bearing on that at all.
>
> Also in terms of transparency, I think saying "look, look, what I
> have done" covers that at least to some extent. As for
> accountability, the NCUC-EC that appointed me to the NCSG-PC, can
> withdraw my appointment anytime it is displeased. I think that is
> how accountability in the NCSG works: you fire the bums. As one of
> the NCUC Executives, it is in your power to initiate that process
> should you feel I have transgressed against transparency or
> accountability.
>
> BTW, while we are asking questions based on my request for WG
> participation info, are you participating in Working Groups, the
> question that started this entire thread? One of the interesting
> things some of are discovering is that in the GNSO, in general, we
> have more people in Constituency and Stakeholder boss roles than
> we have in Working Groups - sort of an inverse pyramidical notion
> of bottom-up. In addition to finding out where NCSG people are
> working on policy, i.e. the working groups, I am curious as to
> what the NCSG ratio of bosses:workers is.
>
> thanks
>
> avri
>
>
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