[NCSG-Discuss] A Question

Magaly mpazello at E-FEM.NET
Mon Feb 11 16:38:47 CET 2013


People, please be relax... it is carnival and the Pope has resigned! Let's
celebrate!
Websites, wikis etc. are always a working in progress... I am happy that
there are vonlunteers and icann staff working on that :-)
Magaly

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> cheers
>
> avri
>
> On 11 Feb 2013, at 00:03, Edward Morris wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying that Avri.
> >
> > I assume this was informal?
>
> There was not vote on the issue if that is what you mean by formal.
>
> >
> > One of the best parts of transparency is everyone knows who made what
> decision. That way displeasure or approval are directed at the proper
> parties.
> >
>
> It was done on the NCSG-PC list, which has an open archive <
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/> which everyone in the
> world is free to peruse any time they wish.
>
>
> > At NCUC we now know we can't count on the stability of our confluence
> presence should our NCSG colleagues have a change of heart. As such, we can
> act appropriately in redesigning our web presence.
> >
>
> As far as i know, the NCUC has chosen NOT to use the confluence wiki,
> whereas NCSG has, and it looks like NPOC has as well.
>
> Other then making any references to the NCUC that are appropriate, I see
> NO connection between the NCSG wiki and the NCUC wiki.
>
> Certainly I think it will be useful to track any statements that might
> come out of the NCUC or NPOC on the NCSG wiki and thus have attempted to
> take that into the account in the tables I am proposing for tracking the
> NCSG-PC's work.
>
> But the NCUC should feel free to do whatever it pleases in terms of
> establishing its own wiki.  I do not see why NCSG wiki decisions have any
> bearing on that at all.
>
> Also in terms of transparency, I think saying "look, look, what I have
> done" covers that at least to some extent.  As for accountability, the
> NCUC-EC that appointed me to the NCSG-PC, can withdraw my appointment
> anytime it is displeased.  I think that is how accountability in the NCSG
> works: you fire the bums. As one of the NCUC Executives, it is in your
> power to initiate that process should you feel I have transgressed against
> transparency or accountability.
>
> BTW, while we are asking questions based on my request for WG
> participation info, are you participating in Working Groups, the question
> that started this entire thread?  One of the interesting things some of are
> discovering is that in the GNSO, in general, we have more people in
> Constituency and Stakeholder boss roles than we have in Working Groups -
> sort of an inverse pyramidical notion of bottom-up.  In addition to finding
> out where NCSG people are working on policy, i.e. the working groups, I am
> curious as to what the NCSG ratio of bosses:workers is.
>
> thanks
>
> avri
>
>
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