[NCUC-DISCUSS] Fwd: [ccwg-internet-governance] What is open, what is limited?

Fri Dec 13 12:28:33 CET 2013

Hello, I'm from NPOC and I'm seconded Rudi here if possible.
Cheers !
-Olevie-


2013/12/12 Grigori Saghyan <gregor at arminco.com>

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> Dear Bill,
> I am ready to participate in this CWG, and can provide some
> information about current IG process in Armenia. We have started the
> process of creation of a permanent IG Forum lasy year, during
> preparation Armenian position on WCIT.
>
> Grigori Saghyan
> ISOC.AM
>
> On 12.12.2013 10:37, William Drake wrote:
> > on the construction of the Community Working Group on IG.  As per
> > the meeting with At Large in BA, NCSG is currently represented by
> > me, Avri, and Rafik.  The agreement is to have up to four.  I?d
> > have thought the fourth should be NPOC, but was told NPOC people
> > are aware but didn?t put anyone forward.  So I guess we could
> > suggest a fourth?
> >
> > Formal seats on the CWG aside, the deal apparently is that anyone
> > can join the mailing list or listen in on the calls.  If you want
> > to sign up, as some NCUCers have already, go to
> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> *From: *Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org <mailto:evan at telly.org>>
> >> *Subject: **Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] What is open, what is
> >> limited?* *Date: *December 11, 2013 at 9:48:51 PM GMT+1 *To:
> >> *Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>
> >> *Cc: *"ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> >> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>"
> >> <ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> >> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>>
> >>
> >> Thanks, Olivier. I fully agree with this course of action.
> >>
> >> Regarding the (optional!) group Skype chat that was mentioned
> >> during the call; this has been set up but has not been fully
> >> populated.
> >>
> >> If you wish to be added to the chat you need to be added by
> >> someone already there, which right now includes the ALAC and NCSG
> >> people plus Ken Stubbs, Michele Neylon, Renate Dewulf and Tracy
> >> Hackshaw. Or feel free to contact me (not the list!) with your
> >> skype ID and I will add you.
> >>
> >> - Evan
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11 December 2013 15:31, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> >> <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Bill,
> >>
> >> thanks for this note and apologies for going through this
> >> quickly at the end of the call.
> >>
> >> There are several aspects to our working lists & conference
> >> calls and this is what I suggest:
> >>
> >> *Transparency* As ICANN is open to all participation and in the
> >> interest of transparency, our conference calls as well as our
> >> mailing list should be "open" to everyone.
> >>
> >> *Speaking/Writing rights* With the premise that anyone can dial
> >> in on a conference call and anyone can subscribe to the mailing
> >> list (for convenience I figured it would be better to have a
> >> mailing list that's open for everyone to subscribe to rather than
> >> asking people to read the proceedings on the mailing list's
> >> archive) the question then comes to the differentiation between
> >> observers and WG members.
> >>
> >> - Calls Everyone can dial into the call but only officially
> >> designated representatives (ie: members of the CCWG) can
> >> speak/intervene. People dialled in the call that do not have a
> >> right to speak can channel their input through their official
> >> representatives. The person Chairing the call & Staff will make
> >> sure this guideline is adhered to.
> >>
> >> - Mailing list Everyone can be subscribed to the mailing list but
> >> only Official designated representatives (ie. members of the
> >> CCWG) may post to the list. Observers of the CCWG have their
> >> "moderation flag on" which means any posting from them will go to
> >> the list moderator which at the moment is Staff - so it doesn't
> >> get distributed to everyone. Again, this is done in order to have
> >> observers channel their input through their designated members.
> >> The moderation flag is something which Staff will need to set
> >> manually but it is straight forward.
> >>
> >> *In Camera Discussions*
> >>
> >> From time to time, there might be a need for the WG to work "in
> >> camera" during a conference call - ie. confidentially. The
> >> recording will be stopped and all participants on the call
> >> accounted for, with any non WG participants (observers) asked to
> >> leave the call. At this stage, I do not expect any "in camera"
> >> discussions, but I've said that many times in past working
> >> groups until the day when we needed to have such a discussion.
> >>
> >> We could be picky and give "official observers" a special status
> >> so they could remain in the "in camera" discussions if we wanted
> >> to.
> >>
> >> I hope this proposal is satisfactory for everyone. Feedback
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >> Kindest regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/12/2013 18:17, William Drake wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> I?m on Skype with a bunch of people trying to understand what
> >>> Olivier said quickly at the end of the call and whether it is
> >>> the group consensus.
> >>>
> >>> Is the deal that we agree
> >>>
> >>> 1.  4 designated reps formally on the CWG 2.  Those reps or
> >>> their alternates participate in the conference calls 3.
> >>> However, the mailing list would be open to anyone in the
> >>> community, so we can give out the URL to sign up
> >>>
> >>> Is that right?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Louis Lee <louie at louie.net
> >>> <mailto:louie at louie.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Olivier,
> >>>>
> >>>> The ASO Address Council have come to full consensus on
> >>>> forwarding the names of following three volunteers to the
> >>>> NRO Executive Council for ASO endorsement:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Filiz Yilmaz * Naresh Ajwani * Martin Levy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I will stay on the list and join conference calls (as I'm
> >>>> able to) as an observer for the time being.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ergys & Renate,
> >>>>
> >>>> In anticipation of ASO endorsement, please subscribe all 3
> >>>> of them to this CCWG mailing list.  Please also provide them
> >>>> as well as myself with access to the CCWG wiki.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> Louie Lee Chair, ICANN ASO Address Council
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In anticipation of this endorsement, would you please
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> >>>> <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Michele,
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks for this. Excellent to hear James is joining. I have
> >>>> asked Ergys to add him because I don't have the ability to
> >>>> add anyone to the mailing list. So if you need to add people
> >>>> and that includes the request from Elisa too, please email
> >>>> ergys.ramaj at icann.org <mailto:ergys.ramaj at icann.org> who is
> >>>> the Staff member supporting the WG and he'll add the names to
> >>>> the list. Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Olivier
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> ccwg-internet-governance mailing list
> >>>> ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> >>>> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>> ccwg-internet-governance mailing list
> >>> ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> >>> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance
> >>
> >> -- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ccwg-internet-governance mailing list
> >> ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> >> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto Canada
> >>
> >> Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ccwg-internet-governance mailing list
> >> ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org
> >> <mailto:ccwg-internet-governance at icann.org>
> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance
> >
> >
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> Grigori Saghyan
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