<div dir="ltr">Hello, I'm from NPOC and I'm seconded Rudi here if possible.<div style>Cheers !</div><div style>-Olevie-</div><div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/12 Grigori Saghyan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregor@arminco.com" target="_blank">gregor@arminco.com</a>></span><br>
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Dear Bill,<br>
I am ready to participate in this CWG, and can provide some<br>
information about current IG process in Armenia. We have started the<br>
process of creation of a permanent IG Forum lasy year, during<br>
preparation Armenian position on WCIT.<br>
<br>
Grigori Saghyan<br>
<a href="http://ISOC.AM" target="_blank">ISOC.AM</a><br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 12.12.2013 10:37, William Drake wrote:<br>
> on the construction of the Community Working Group on IG. As per<br>
> the meeting with At Large in BA, NCSG is currently represented by<br>
</div>> me, Avri, and Rafik. The agreement is to have up to four. I?d<br>
<div class="im">> have thought the fourth should be NPOC, but was told NPOC people<br>
</div>> are aware but didn?t put anyone forward. So I guess we could<br>
<div class="im">> suggest a fourth?<br>
><br>
> Formal seats on the CWG aside, the deal apparently is that anyone<br>
> can join the mailing list or listen in on the calls. If you want<br>
> to sign up, as some NCUCers have already, go to<br>
> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance</a><br>
><br>
> Best<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
><br>
> Begin forwarded message:<br>
><br>
</div>>> *From: *Evan Leibovitch <<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org">evan@telly.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org">evan@telly.org</a>>><br>
>> *Subject: **Re: [ccwg-internet-governance] What is open, what is<br>
>> limited?* *Date: *December 11, 2013 at 9:48:51 PM GMT+1 *To:<br>
>> *Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>>><br>
>> *Cc: *"<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>>"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>>><br>
<div class="im">>><br>
>> Thanks, Olivier. I fully agree with this course of action.<br>
>><br>
>> Regarding the (optional!) group Skype chat that was mentioned<br>
>> during the call; this has been set up but has not been fully<br>
>> populated.<br>
>><br>
>> If you wish to be added to the chat you need to be added by<br>
>> someone already there, which right now includes the ALAC and NCSG<br>
>> people plus Ken Stubbs, Michele Neylon, Renate Dewulf and Tracy<br>
>> Hackshaw. Or feel free to contact me (not the list!) with your<br>
>> skype ID and I will add you.<br>
>><br>
>> - Evan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 11 December 2013 15:31, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<br>
</div><div class="im">>> <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Bill,<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for this note and apologies for going through this<br>
>> quickly at the end of the call.<br>
>><br>
>> There are several aspects to our working lists & conference<br>
>> calls and this is what I suggest:<br>
>><br>
</div>>> *Transparency* As ICANN is open to all participation and in the<br>
<div class="im">>> interest of transparency, our conference calls as well as our<br>
>> mailing list should be "open" to everyone.<br>
>><br>
</div>>> *Speaking/Writing rights* With the premise that anyone can dial<br>
<div class="im">>> in on a conference call and anyone can subscribe to the mailing<br>
>> list (for convenience I figured it would be better to have a<br>
>> mailing list that's open for everyone to subscribe to rather than<br>
>> asking people to read the proceedings on the mailing list's<br>
>> archive) the question then comes to the differentiation between<br>
>> observers and WG members.<br>
>><br>
>> - Calls Everyone can dial into the call but only officially<br>
>> designated representatives (ie: members of the CCWG) can<br>
>> speak/intervene. People dialled in the call that do not have a<br>
>> right to speak can channel their input through their official<br>
>> representatives. The person Chairing the call & Staff will make<br>
>> sure this guideline is adhered to.<br>
>><br>
>> - Mailing list Everyone can be subscribed to the mailing list but<br>
>> only Official designated representatives (ie. members of the<br>
>> CCWG) may post to the list. Observers of the CCWG have their<br>
>> "moderation flag on" which means any posting from them will go to<br>
>> the list moderator which at the moment is Staff - so it doesn't<br>
>> get distributed to everyone. Again, this is done in order to have<br>
>> observers channel their input through their designated members.<br>
>> The moderation flag is something which Staff will need to set<br>
>> manually but it is straight forward.<br>
>><br>
</div>>> *In Camera Discussions*<br>
<div class="im">>><br>
>> From time to time, there might be a need for the WG to work "in<br>
>> camera" during a conference call - ie. confidentially. The<br>
>> recording will be stopped and all participants on the call<br>
>> accounted for, with any non WG participants (observers) asked to<br>
>> leave the call. At this stage, I do not expect any "in camera"<br>
>> discussions, but I've said that many times in past working<br>
>> groups until the day when we needed to have such a discussion.<br>
>><br>
>> We could be picky and give "official observers" a special status<br>
>> so they could remain in the "in camera" discussions if we wanted<br>
>> to.<br>
>><br>
>> I hope this proposal is satisfactory for everyone. Feedback<br>
>> appreciated.<br>
>><br>
>> Kindest regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Olivier<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 11/12/2013 18:17, William Drake wrote:<br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
</div>>>> I?m on Skype with a bunch of people trying to understand what<br>
<div class="im">>>> Olivier said quickly at the end of the call and whether it is<br>
>>> the group consensus.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Is the deal that we agree<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. 4 designated reps formally on the CWG 2. Those reps or<br>
>>> their alternates participate in the conference calls 3.<br>
>>> However, the mailing list would be open to anyone in the<br>
>>> community, so we can give out the URL to sign up<br>
>>><br>
>>> Is that right?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks<br>
>>><br>
>>> Bill<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Louis Lee <<a href="mailto:louie@louie.net">louie@louie.net</a><br>
</div><div class="im">>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:louie@louie.net">louie@louie.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Dear Olivier,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The ASO Address Council have come to full consensus on<br>
>>>> forwarding the names of following three volunteers to the<br>
>>>> NRO Executive Council for ASO endorsement:<br>
>>>><br>
</div>>>>> * Filiz Yilmaz * Naresh Ajwani * Martin Levy<br>
<div class="im">>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I will stay on the list and join conference calls (as I'm<br>
>>>> able to) as an observer for the time being.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ergys & Renate,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In anticipation of ASO endorsement, please subscribe all 3<br>
>>>> of them to this CCWG mailing list. Please also provide them<br>
>>>> as well as myself with access to the CCWG wiki.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thank you!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Louie Lee Chair, ICANN ASO Address Council<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In anticipation of this endorsement, would you please<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<br>
</div><div class="im">>>>> <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear Michele,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> thanks for this. Excellent to hear James is joining. I have<br>
>>>> asked Ergys to add him because I don't have the ability to<br>
>>>> add anyone to the mailing list. So if you need to add people<br>
>>>> and that includes the request from Elisa too, please email<br>
</div>>>>> <a href="mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org">ergys.ramaj@icann.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org">ergys.ramaj@icann.org</a>> who is<br>
<div class="im">>>>> the Staff member supporting the WG and he'll add the names to<br>
>>>> the list. Kind regards,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Olivier<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> ccwg-internet-governance mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
</div>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>><br>
<div class="im">>>>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>>> ccwg-internet-governance mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
</div>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>><br>
<div class="im">>>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance</a><br>
>><br>
>> -- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD <a href="http://www.gih.com/ocl.html" target="_blank">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> <a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
</div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>><br>
<div class="im">>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-internet-governance</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto Canada<br>
>><br>
>> Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56<br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> <a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a><br>
</div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org">ccwg-internet-governance@icann.org</a>><br>
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