Closed New gTLDs - "Closed Gardens"
Carl Smith
lectriclou at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Sep 6 19:16:21 CEST 2012
In rebuttal,
When Corporations own the very words we speak, what will that do to our
daily communication?
Lou
On 9/5/2012 5:03 PM, Andrei Barburas wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Edward, allow me to contradict you regarding this statement:
>
> "/Domain names are not trademarks. Nor are they sui generis i.p.
> marks. To sign this letter indicates a belief that in some form they
> are and will make it a be a bit more difficult in the futre to
> coherently fight efforts by brand owners to further expand their
> monopoly rights in the domain ecosphere./"
>
> The best example I can give, is Amazon.com which is an actual
> trademark (Amazon with and without the dotcom; a list of their
> trademarks can be found here:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200738910)
>
> This issue was discussed in one of our previous mailings regarding
> "generic" words, like fruits and everyday items.
>
>
>
> *Andrei Barburas*
>
> Community Relations Services Officer
>
> International Institute for Communication and Development (IICD)
>
> P.O. Box 11586, 2502 AN The Hague, The Netherlands
>
>
> Mobile: +31 62 928 2879
>
> Phone: +31 70 311 7311
> Fax: +31 70 311 7322
> Website: www.iicd.org <http://www.iicd.org/>
>
> **People ********ICT Development**
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Edward Morris
> <edward.morris at alumni.usc.edu <mailto:edward.morris at alumni.usc.edu>>
> wrote:
>
> I would take exception to the claim that allowing so called
> "closed garden" gTLD's at all infringes upon nation states
> "entrenched legal processes" for obtaining trademark protection.
>
> It's usually brand owners I need to remind of what appears to be a
> little recognized fact: domain names are not trademarks.
> Notwithstanding the fact that brand owners want us to treat domain
> names as trademarks +, that some UDRP mediators seem to buy this
> argument, that we're left fighting attempts to establish
> extraordinary protection for famous marks...
>
> Domain names are not trademarks. Nor are they sui generis i.p.
> marks. To sign this letter indicates a belief that in some form
> they are and will make it a be a bit more difficult in the futre
> to coherently fight efforts by brand owners to further expand
> their monopoly rights in the domain ecosphere.
>
> The concept of a commons in generic terms may be admirable. The
> concept stands alone and needs not and should not be linked to
> trademark rights. Regrettably the time to make such an argument
> with regards to this round of gTlds is in the past.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Kathy Kleiman
> <kathy at kathykleiman.com <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I would like to share with you a letter being circulated by
> Michele Neylon, the wonderful Blacknight registrar (and the
> only registrar in Ireland). It deals with new gTLDs that are
> "closed gardens" -- generic words that some companies have
> applied for as new gTLDs and will keep "closed" -- not open
> for general second-level domain name registration. These
> include some applicants for .BLOG and .CLOUD, among many others.
>
> It's a powerful letter with strong free speech/freedom of
> expression arguments. Concerns are shared by registries,
> registrars and registrants -- and Michele is looking for
> Signatories.
>
> Please take a moment to look at the letter, and let Michele
> know if you can sign on (name, organization). Michele is
> cc'ed on this email, and can be reached at
> michele at blacknight.ie <mailto:michele at blacknight.ie>
>
> -----
> Here's the full version with current signatories :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZUNlookOWyaSW8lXfi_37zVFsVk9xcxncvmE0uwPEFY/editHere
> are two quotes from the
>
>
> Here are two quotes from the letter:
> "Based on our collective industry experience, we are of the
> opinion that the underlying intention of Section 6 was to
> allow for the operation of closed gTLDs only under very
> defined circumstances.
> Specifically, that closed gTLDs should be reserved for only
> those strings in which the applicant possesses established
> (i.e., legally recognized) intellectual property rights,
> basically brand names. We believe that this interpretation of
> Section 6 is inherently logical especially in view of the
> discussions that preceded the opening of gTLDs -- which
> focused, in very large part, on expanding choices and
> opportunities as well as promoting innovation, for Internet
> consumers worldwide."
>
> "Further, generic words used in a generic way belong to all
> people. It is inherently in the public interest to allow
> access to generic new gTLDs to the whole of the Internet
> Community, e.g., .BLOG, .MUSIC, .CLOUD. Allowing everyone to
> register and use second level domain names of these powerful,
> generic TLDs is exactly what we envisioned the New gTLD
> Program would do. In contrast, to allow individual Registry
> Operators to segregate and close-off common words for which
> they do not possess intellectual property rights in effect
> allows them to circumvent nation-states’ entrenched legal
> processes for obtaining legitimate and recognized trademark
> protections."
> ----
> Best,
> Kathy
>
> Kathy Kleiman
> Internet Counsel, Fletcher, Heald & Hildreth
> Co-Founder, NCUC
>
>
>
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