.Pirate Domains Now Available Through OpenNic

[Nicolas Adam]

First problem is demand, uptake, critical mass.

Once you have that, then tech problems gets dealt with. Phone and emails
will not be the main driver of uptake, they will get dealt with in the
long run. I already use gmail's smtp to be able to send many of my other
email adresses (including my main business one, for a dramatic example)
while at home.

The pirate bay has all the clout needed to start this ball rolling, IMO.

Nicolas

On 5/17/2012 11:10 AM, Michael Haffely wrote:
> It is not as easy "only running a script", and suggest the following
> exercise to prove my point.
>
> Change your DNS on your phone to point to an alternate DNS provider
> while on the carriers network.
>
> Yes, you *do* need to be very technical to accomplish this.  If users
> can't get to an alternate DNS on all devices they use, it won't be
> accepted.  Users won't accept a system where they can only send email
> to X on Wi-Fi, but can't communicate with X on the carriers or ISP's
> network.  With the trend of more smartphones/tablets as the primary
> internet access device this will prevent the mass uptake of alternate
> root DNS.
>
> The existing root DNS has worked acceptably for decades, and with
> DNSSEC it has fixed some of the security concerns.  To answer "Why
> Not?" to the question of trusting alternative DNS doesn't answer any
> of the concerns raised in RFC 2826
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2826> nor does it address the lack of
> financial, political, and technical stability and longevity that the
> Alternative DNS systems have exhibited.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Nuno Garcia <ngarcia at ngarcia.net
> <mailto:ngarcia at ngarcia.net>> wrote:
>
>     please see inline:
>
>     On 17 May 2012 13:42, Michael Haffely <ncuc at jollyrogers.com
>     <mailto:ncuc at jollyrogers.com>> wrote:
>
>         I don't think it is user share so much as fundamental problems
>         with Alternate DNS systems.
>
>     it is. Unless its run by political (or alike) reazons, its a business
>
>         How easy is it to block alternate DNS by governmental, law, or
>         other agencies or actors?  Unlike the existing DNS system, it
>         is quite trivial to flatten an entire alternate DNS and have
>         no appreciable impact to the Internet.
>
>
>     in the Internet its as easy to block as it is to circumvent
>
>         How does it work at sites that block outbound DNS requests at
>         the edge?
>
>
>     circumvent, use DNS apps, for instance, use proxies, whatever...
>
>         Are you and all those you want to access these resources
>         technical enough to configure all your phones, computers, etc.
>         to implement alternate DNS for all networks?
>
>
>     No one needs to be technical enough, only to run a script and its
>     done.
>
>         Why trust an alternate DNS?
>
>     why not?
>
>
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