new internet protocol worries FBI

DeeDee Halleck deedeehalleck at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jun 21 20:04:43 CEST 2012

I didn't say that they wanted to ban it-- it was the headline from RT which
is *"**Nonprofit Organization “TV-Novosti” "*,  known as Russian TV now
showing up in most Time Warner cable systems.
MSNBC covered this story too.

When i reposted it I said the FBI "worries".

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Avri Doria <avri at> wrote:

> I think this is so very funny.
> I have been arguing, almost ranting, for years about what a bad idea IPv6
> is from a technical viewpoint.
> And here comes the FBI telling us it its dangerous because it allows too
> much freedom
> (though they put it differently - before any one accuses me of misquoting)
> Does this mean I have to start supporting it?
> It is so confusing these days.
> avri
> PS.  Happy mid summer
> DeeDee Halleck <deedeehalleck at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >FBI wants to ban new Internet protocol
> >Get short URL <>
> >email story to a
> >friend<
> >
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> >version<>
> >
> >Published: 19 June, 2012, 20:12
> >[image: FBI wants to ban new Internet protocol]
> >
> >FBI wants to ban new Internet protocol
> >
> >*TAGS:* SciTech <>, Law
> ><>
> >, Internet <>,Information
> >Technology<>
> >, USA <>
> >
> >With the recent unveiling of the newest Internet protocol system,
> >trillions
> >upon trillions of devices are being paved access to the Internet for
> >the
> >unforeseeable future. And right on cue, the FBI is already up in arms
> >over
> >IPv6.
> >
> >With computing devices around the globe already switching from the
> >current
> >Internet protocol system, IPv4, the US Federal Bureau of Investigation
> >is
> >predictably picking a fight with the biggest names in cyberspace to
> >ensure
> >that the FBI and other agencies across North America will be able to
> >inch
> >themselves into the personal Web surfing habits of citizens across the
> >world. Now requests from the FBI to ready a system to easily snoop
> >through
> >Internet traffic has proponents of IPv6 and industry reps alike
> >scrambling
> >to make sense of the feds’ demands.
> >
> >Under the original and quickly antiquating Internet protocol system,
> >IPv4,
> >only 4.3 billion computers, modems, smart phones and other wired
> >devices
> >can send and receive information through cyberspace. When the latest
> >rollover to IPv6 is complete, however, 340 undecillion addresses
> >(that’s a
> >lot<
> >)
> >will be able to be assigned. On the plus side, trillions of more
> >devices
> >will able to be delivered information over the Internet. The FBI,
> >however,
> >wants to make sure that they can still catch cyber criminals and
> >suggest
> >that they might have to insist that the private sector aids them in
> >their
> >future endeavors.
> >
> >According to report filed this week by Cnet’s Declan McCullagh, the
> >FBI,
> >Drug Enforcement Administration and Royal Canadian Mounted Police
> >officials
> >have jointly asked Internet representatives that traceability features
> >be
> >enabled with IPv6 that will allow federal agents to identify suspected
> >cybercriminals with the same kind of ease evident with IPv4. Given that
> >the
> >government is already having trouble trying to find alleged
> >cyberterrorists
> >over the Internet as is, though, they might seriously have their work
> >cut
> >out for them. That’s where McCullagh reports, *“The FBI has even
> >suggested
> >that a new law may be necessary if the private sector doesn't do enough
> >voluntarily.”*
> >
> >Speaking on condition of anonymity, an official with the FBI clues Cnet
> >in
> >on just why the agency is against the next-generation Internet
> >protocol:
> >
> >*“An issue may also arise around the amount of registration information
> >that is maintained by providers and the amount of historical logging
> >that
> >exists. Today there are complete registries of what IPv4 addresses are
> >‘owned’ by an operator. Depending on how the IPv6 system is rolled out,
> >that registry may or may not be sufficient for law enforcement to
> >identify
> >what device is accessing the Internet.”*
> >
> >If hunting for cybercriminals is comparable to searching for a needle
> >in a
> >haystack under IPv4, with IPv6 it will be on par with scouring the
> >stratosphere for a single molecule of oxygen.
> >
> >John Curran of the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) tells
> >Cnet, "We're looking at a problem that's about to occur," and adds
> >that,
> >“as service providers start to roll out V6,” that’s exactly what
> >they’ll
> >receive. The answer, according to the FBI, might be a whole new set of
> >legislation that will let them scour cyberspace for the answers for
> >federal
> >inquiries into alleged Internet crimes.
> >
> >*"We're hoping through all of this you can come up with some
> >self-regulatory method in which you can do it,"* FBI supervisory
> >special
> >agent Bobby Flaim said at an ARIN meeting earlier this year, reports
> >Cnet .
> >*"Because otherwise, there will be other things that people are going
> >to
> >consider."*
> >
> >--
> >

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