NCSG mission statement - Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Off-topic: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Outcry as relief food expires in Kenya Red Cross warehouse

Thu Jan 19 04:22:32 CET 2012

Thanks Alain- and Maria for the reminder. Alain, Maria was referring to the
discussion that began late last year about some shared principles for the
NCSG. You mentioned Lori Schulman as NPOC EC Policy Committee Chair might
engage with that  however, there has been no contribution on the list from
her as yet. It would be great if you and others wanted to join that
discussion. I can refresh this on the list if that would be helpful

Cheers

Joy

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Berranger
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Subject: NCSG mission statement - Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Off-topic: Re:
[NCSG-Discuss] Outcry as relief food expires in Kenya Red Cross warehouse

Hi Maria,

Thanks for your wise reminder. I agree with you. 

BTW, I did not know about Joy's effort to draft a NCSG mission statement.
Without too much malice, how can we have a charter without a mission
statement? or we do have one (excuse my ignorance) and Joy is drafting an
update? Maybe we can discuss before San José? Can NCUC and NPOC actually
share a joint mission statement? In any case I volunteer to work with Joy on
this task. Jo, let me know how I can contribute.

Alain

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Alex,

Thanks for the link. It is of great concern, though I'm not sure it's a
close fit with NCSG's core issues. Is the connection that the US Red Cross
is a member of NCSG?

Sarah - we've not met, and I know an email to a discussion list is perhaps
not the most nuanced place to discuss these issues. However, I believe the
NCSG discuss list is not the venue for incendiary comments such as
"Population control?", which imply murderous intent on the part of NGOs in
developing countries. You are of course entitled to your personal view that
NGOs are ineffective or even iniquitous, but I do not see how that opinion
is constructive within this forum. What possible relevance does this have
for developing noncommercial input to ICANN's GNSO policy development
process?

I hesitate to confront this openly on-list, because of the almost inevitable
waste of time and effort that may ensue. However, when shared lists fail to
stay on-topic and distribute trollish comments, it drowns out reasonable
voices and signals to potential contributors that they will not be heard.
Think what we could accomplish on developing inputs to current ICANN policy
issues with the same resources. 

So rather than a long, heated thread on a topic of high concern but low
relevance, can we please consider directing our efforts towards current,
real policy issues of importance to the NCSG? 

Currently outstanding are requests for people to volunteer on the drafting
team for the charter on domain name locking and the UDRP, Joy's efforts to
draft a mission statement for the NCSG, calls for comments on the Draft
Integrated Issues Report on IDN Variant Issues Project, and a just-expired
request for individual NCSG responses on the JAS issue. We also have a
policy call next Monday, 16 Jan. For my part, the Nominating Committee
application period for leadership positions has recently opened, and
nonprofit candidates are badly needed - so that is an ongoing task of this
group to find senior nonprofit people and encourage them to get involved
with ICANN. 

In short, we have a lot of real work to do.

Maria

On 13 January 2012 05:19, Sarah El Ebiary <sarahelebiary at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure how it is in Kenya, but doesn't the head of the Red Cross in
the USA make an unconscionably high salary? I read it was upwards of half a
million US dollars per year. When I read that, I vowed to be more careful
about donating to disaster relief fundraisers and all charities that cannot
be monitored or accountable penny for penny.

Sometimes I feel like it's a huge scam. 
Haiti. Katrina. ASPCA. Etc.

Unless my donations are going from my hand (or perhaps from a close friend
or another family member's hand on the ground) directly to the mouths of the
needy, then tragedies of waste such as this can certainly be avoided.

Too bad...

On Jan 12, 2012 8:24 PM, "Alex Gakuru" <gakuru at gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:37 AM, warigia bowman <warigia at aucegypt.edu>
wrote:
>

> Yes, except the cu...

Yeah right! But be sure not to tarnish the "very reputable organisation" on
a blog post. DO NOT include adverse links to such a post - because if you
do? And SOPA/PIPA pass, your entire blog site could be pulled down after
they complain to the "relevant online Copyright/IP Authorities." So much
free speech to expose basic human rights (food, clothes and shelter)
injustices going forward, right?

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Sarah El Ebiary <sarahelebiary at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>

>> Popul...

>>>
>>> This is crazy. Why do you think this happened?

My guess is as good as anyone's. Maybe the local initiative's success
threatened their foodchain? Global fundraising system? Hence KILL! future
prospects of all such local initiatives likes of: (re:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/34256-kenyans4kenyans-kitty-rais
es-over-sh81million ) ? That disrupt precious dollars from out there from
percolating through an otherwise "properly established system"? Collected
putting up an 'angelic' face as a tool to demand special protections by
*everyone* (including on icann policies)? To put brakes on emergent,
terrible, "Kenyans4Kenyans" model that diminishes their longstanding, global
established brand as "the only ones who truly care" impression? Maybe the
starving do not live at the NGO's "politically correct" dry Northern Kenya
areas? Or releasing the food to the starving would have meant the problem is
REALLY  getting solved therefore Kenyan could stop giving more food, more
money? I have no idea what on earth motivated them to do such inhuman acts,
but you bet we're pissed off with Red Cross! 

Today is among the worst days for *anyone* to dare shower Red Cross with
traditional praises over here.

-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA

Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> 

Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca

NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger

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