[] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
Alain Berranger
alain.berranger at GMAIL.COM
Wed Apr 18 23:39:00 CEST 2012
Yes, the issues report is now the priority so it seems wasteful to have the
DT continue... Alain
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> That is exactly the point some of us are making.
>
> Some disagree, e.g. Alan G. argued that a PDP could not complete in time
> and thus this group needed to soldier on and fulfill its charter. So there
> is a difference of opinion the issue of continuing.
>
> But then again the issue is wider than the IFRC and IOT at this point.
> For example, one of the reasons put forward by the IFRC is that they do
> not want to waste the contributions they get for doing their charitable
> mission in the fight against mark transgressors - the URS and UDRP cost
> money they would prefer to spend otherwise. I am assuming a lot of
> charities could make a similar plea. So I think any solution by this
> group will be flawed for many reasons ranging from procedure to fairness.
>
> In any case, it was pointed out that the g-council created the Discussion
> Team and thus the g-council was the only entity that could tell them to
> close up shop and put the energies (Staff as well as volunteer) into the
> issues report and then the PDP, assuming the PDP will be approved, which
> seems sort of inevitable to me.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 18 Apr 2012, at 15:22, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
> > On 18 April 2012 13:26, <Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu> wrote:
> > The group was chartered to also discuss second level protections for the
> IOC and RC; it's not entirely clear that with the Board rejection of the
> GNSO motion for *additional* protections the group still shouldn't be
> discussing second level protections not premised on such additional
> protections.
> >
> >
> > If such an issue is still on the table, it should be in the form of a
> proper PDP that can better incorporate input from all communities.
> >
> > This was a hastily-assembled reaction to a specific Board request. Its
> core question has been asked and answered.
> >
> > The very fact that it's not a working group is only the most obvious
> clue of this effort's ad-hoc nature. Since the Board has explicitly
> rejected any wording changes to the AG, continued use of a Drafting Team
> for further work is wholly inappropriate.
> >
> > FWIW, I support its dissolution. I am speaking here because the
> differences in process enable different levels of engagement of non-GNSO
> communities.
> >
> > - Evan
> >
> >
> > In other words, it has not been disbanded by the GNSO Council or its
> charter amended.
> >
> > I will try to get on the call since no one else seems to be able to, and
> will stay on as long as I can. I'd be surprised if the Chair doesn't raise
> the Board resolution or the recent GNSO motion that we proposed (and
> succeeded in getting through) - he has already forwarded them to the
> Drafting Team mailing list. I will ask the question if he does not.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Mary W S Wong
> > Professor of Law
> > Chair, Graduate IP Programs
> > Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
> > UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
> > Two White Street
> > Concord, NH 03301
> > USA
> > Email: mary.wong at law.unh.edu
> > Phone: 1-603-513-5143
> > Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php
> > Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network
> (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
> > >>>
> > From: Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>
> > To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> > Date: 4/18/2012 12:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting
> Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC)
> & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
> > Yes, I agree that this group must be disbanded. It has become a runaway
> train and the board has already rejected its recommendations. Do we need
> to propose a motion in the GNSO to end the group?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Avri - I won't be attending either this call. Wolfgang is also
> representing NCSG in this group but I am equally baffled as to why this
> group continues to meet and discuss things that will end up becoming
> policy. I think this needs to be challenged somehow!
> > >
> > > KK
> > >
> > > Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,
> > >
> > > Senior Lecturer,
> > > Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses
> > > Director of LLM Information Technology and Telecommunications Law
> > > University of Strathclyde,
> > > The Law School,
> > > Graham Hills building,
> > > 50 George Street, Glasgow G1 1BA
> > > UK
> > > tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306
> > >
> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765
> > > Selected publications:
> http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038
> > > Website: www.komaitis.org
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf
> Of Avri Doria
> > > Sent: Τετάρτη, 18 Απριλίου 2012 12:37 μμ
> > > To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting
> Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC)
> & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I assume KK is no attending as well given his hew role in life.
> > >
> > > Who else from NCSG has been attending. Will we have a voice at this
> meeting?
> > >
> > > And now that there is an issues report request in the works, why is
> this group still meeting?
> > >
> > > avri
> > >
> > > On 17 Apr 2012, at 23:56, Joy Liddicoat wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi - FYI, but note that I am unable to make this call.
> > >> Kind regards
> > >> Joy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org [mailto:
> owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 3:59 a.m.
> > >> To: ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org
> > >> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
> > >> Subject: [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO
> issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC)
> names discussion group
> > >>
> > >>
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> > Evan Leibovitch
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
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