Meeting in Dakar re NPOC complaint

Sat Oct 29 15:37:48 CEST 2011

Dear all, maybe I am not inspired, but what is a SOI?

Statement of Interest?

Best,

NG

On 29 October 2011 12:18, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Avri.
>
> While it's not an obligation to do so, I am happy to volunteer an SOI to
> the list based on the template - if that would be constructive and a welcome
> thing to do in the circumstances. Or anyone who's interested can visit my
> LinkedIn profile which I try to keep up to date:
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=1110917&trk=tab_pro
>
> Maria
>
>
> On 29 October 2011 11:09, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The SOI is a requirement for all those who participate in an of the
>> Working Groups or the the g-council itself.  So the more people we have
>> represented in the SOI directory, the better because it means lots of people
>> are participating in the activities of ICANN.  Amber and Konstantinos filed
>> one because it was required for their respective stints as temporary
>> replacements for a g-councilor.  The paucity of NCSG members listed in the
>> directory is a direct witness to how few of us participate in WGs.
>>
>> We do not, however, have a NCSG Charter requirement for filling out an SOI
>> as a member of the SG. And I am not sure how well it work out for us to put
>> SOIs for all of our members, and the members of organizational members, in
>> the GNSO SOI list.
>>
>> But if the NCSG wanted to make filing an SOI a requirement, that would be
>> interesting discussion. And I suppose the NCSG-EC could implement something
>> specifically for the NCSG if they wished.  It would be relatively easy for
>> someone to copy the template from the GNSO wiki space and start one in the
>> NCSG wiki space.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 29 Oct 2011, at 04:12, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Dan,
>> >
>> > I would add that a reasonable standard of transparency and participation
>> would include all NCSG members' SOIs be submitted in the nearest future. It
>> only takes a few minutes to complete. I notice that Amber and Konstantinos,
>> our respective Chairs of NPOC and NCUC have completed their SOIs under the
>> new format and we should all follow their lead. As many NPOC members have
>> recently joined this discussion group, it would help us understand the web
>> of relationships and degrees of separation in the  NCSG community and their
>> two constituencies. For new comers, knowing who you are dealing with is
>> essential.
>> >
>> > Cheers, Alain
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dan Krimm <dan at musicunbound.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This is a big relief, very happy to hear it.
>> >
>> > I'd be even happier to see a post on-list by Amber that NPOC is happy
>> with
>> > this outcome.  Firsthand public reports are always the "gold standard"
>> > here, and a very good habit to get into as a matter of course -- just a
>> > friendly piece of advice about the collective culture here as a way to
>> > offer a welcoming hand in good faith.
>> >
>> > 90% of success in life is simply showing up.  For those of us who are
>> not
>> > able to attend these events in person or even remotely in real time,
>> this
>> > list is where "showing up" has the broadest reach as well as the
>> > tangibility and persistence of a written record.  It has real and
>> > unduplicated meaning, and thus it makes a real difference.
>> >
>> > So please, take our hand here on-list, and don't be a stranger.  This
>> > public forum is an ineliminable venue for bringing our community
>> together,
>> > and should not be discounted.  Regular presence here in good faith
>> should
>> > be factored into any commitment to participate in the SG, especially as
>> a
>> > leader/representative.  This is a fabulous opportunity for a fresh
>> start,
>> > and for looking forward.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and
>> > do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, October 28, 2011 11:28 am, Robin Gross wrote:
>> >> Thank you Milton.  I agree it was a worthwhile discussion and we were
>> able
>> >> to clarify several misunderstandings and recalibrate expectations
>> >> regarding the NCSG membership application process so the SG should be
>> less
>> >> likely to have these hiccups in the future.
>> >>
>> >> Specifically, it was clarified that when new NCSG membership
>> applications
>> >> are submitted, they need to be submitted by the organization making the
>> >> application itself (not the chair of NCUC or NPOC).  Although
>> Konstantinos
>> >> & Amber (as chairs of NCUC & NPOC) will come up with a membership form
>> >> that can be submitted to the NCSG-EC and the constituency at the same
>> >> time.  Applications will be responded to by the EC within 2 weeks from
>> >> submission.  The NCSG-EC will conduct its due diligence and verify the
>> >> applicants and make its decision as agreed in the NCSG charter.
>> >>
>> >> So with respect to the recent election results and the handling of
>> >> membership applications, it was a very productive conversation and I am
>> >> hopeful that we now have a clearer understanding of how to move
>> forward.
>> >> Actually, the NCSG Charter, which was agreed to by the NCSG membership,
>> >> NCUC, NPOC and the ICANN Board proscribes many of the mechanisms and
>> >> processes that should be followed for administration of the SG.
>> >>
>> >> It is my hope and sincere wish that past differences can be put aside
>> and
>> >> we can all begin working together in a cooperative and constructive
>> >> fashion to build a stronger SG that promotes the interests of all
>> >> noncommercial users of the DNS.  NCSG welcomes its new members,
>> including
>> >> NPOC members, and is looking forward to working with the participants
>> in
>> >> the coming months to build a stronger and more diverse SG at ICANN.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >> Robin Gross
>> >> NCSG Chair
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dear members
>> >>> NCSG EC members, NCUC members and NPOC leadership met in Dakar
>> yesterday
>> >>> with the ICANN Ombudsman acting as a neutral mediator.
>> >>> The meeting focused on future practices for handling new membership
>> >>> applications; there was and is no talk of undoing the election any
>> more.
>> >>> I think we identified some of the misunderstandings and process
>> hiccups
>> >>> that led to the initial problem and reached an agreement on how to
>> >>> process membership applications in the future. I'll let Robin Gross,
>> the
>> >>> new NCSG Chair, fill you in on the details.
>> >>>
>> >>> Milton L. Mueller
>> >>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>> >>> Internet Governance Project
>> >>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> IP JUSTICE
>> >> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>> >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>> >> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>> > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
>> > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>> www.schulich.yorku.ca
>> > interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
>> > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>> > Skype: alain.berranger
>> >
>>
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