Meeting in Dakar re NPOC complaint

Sat Oct 29 15:49:01 CEST 2011

Sorry - acronym bingo. Yes, it means Statement of Interest.

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On 29 October 2011 13:37, Nuno Garcia <ngarcia at ngarcia.net> wrote:

> Dear all, maybe I am not inspired, but what is a SOI?
>
> Statement of Interest?
>
> Best,
>
> NG
>
>
> On 29 October 2011 12:18, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Avri.
>>
>> While it's not an obligation to do so, I am happy to volunteer an SOI to
>> the list based on the template - if that would be constructive and a welcome
>> thing to do in the circumstances. Or anyone who's interested can visit my
>> LinkedIn profile which I try to keep up to date:
>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=1110917&trk=tab_pro
>>
>> Maria
>>
>>
>> On 29 October 2011 11:09, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The SOI is a requirement for all those who participate in an of the
>>> Working Groups or the the g-council itself.  So the more people we have
>>> represented in the SOI directory, the better because it means lots of people
>>> are participating in the activities of ICANN.  Amber and Konstantinos filed
>>> one because it was required for their respective stints as temporary
>>> replacements for a g-councilor.  The paucity of NCSG members listed in the
>>> directory is a direct witness to how few of us participate in WGs.
>>>
>>> We do not, however, have a NCSG Charter requirement for filling out an
>>> SOI as a member of the SG. And I am not sure how well it work out for us to
>>> put SOIs for all of our members, and the members of organizational members,
>>> in the GNSO SOI list.
>>>
>>> But if the NCSG wanted to make filing an SOI a requirement, that would be
>>> interesting discussion. And I suppose the NCSG-EC could implement something
>>> specifically for the NCSG if they wished.  It would be relatively easy for
>>> someone to copy the template from the GNSO wiki space and start one in the
>>> NCSG wiki space.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Oct 2011, at 04:12, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks Dan,
>>> >
>>> > I would add that a reasonable standard of transparency and
>>> participation would include all NCSG members' SOIs be submitted in the
>>> nearest future. It only takes a few minutes to complete. I notice that Amber
>>> and Konstantinos, our respective Chairs of NPOC and NCUC have completed
>>> their SOIs under the new format and we should all follow their lead. As many
>>> NPOC members have recently joined this discussion group, it would help us
>>> understand the web of relationships and degrees of separation in the  NCSG
>>> community and their two constituencies. For new comers, knowing who you are
>>> dealing with is essential.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers, Alain
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dan Krimm <dan at musicunbound.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > This is a big relief, very happy to hear it.
>>> >
>>> > I'd be even happier to see a post on-list by Amber that NPOC is happy
>>> with
>>> > this outcome.  Firsthand public reports are always the "gold standard"
>>> > here, and a very good habit to get into as a matter of course -- just a
>>> > friendly piece of advice about the collective culture here as a way to
>>> > offer a welcoming hand in good faith.
>>> >
>>> > 90% of success in life is simply showing up.  For those of us who are
>>> not
>>> > able to attend these events in person or even remotely in real time,
>>> this
>>> > list is where "showing up" has the broadest reach as well as the
>>> > tangibility and persistence of a written record.  It has real and
>>> > unduplicated meaning, and thus it makes a real difference.
>>> >
>>> > So please, take our hand here on-list, and don't be a stranger.  This
>>> > public forum is an ineliminable venue for bringing our community
>>> together,
>>> > and should not be discounted.  Regular presence here in good faith
>>> should
>>> > be factored into any commitment to participate in the SG, especially as
>>> a
>>> > leader/representative.  This is a fabulous opportunity for a fresh
>>> start,
>>> > and for looking forward.
>>> >
>>> > Dan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone
>>> and
>>> > do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, October 28, 2011 11:28 am, Robin Gross wrote:
>>> >> Thank you Milton.  I agree it was a worthwhile discussion and we were
>>> able
>>> >> to clarify several misunderstandings and recalibrate expectations
>>> >> regarding the NCSG membership application process so the SG should be
>>> less
>>> >> likely to have these hiccups in the future.
>>> >>
>>> >> Specifically, it was clarified that when new NCSG membership
>>> applications
>>> >> are submitted, they need to be submitted by the organization making
>>> the
>>> >> application itself (not the chair of NCUC or NPOC).  Although
>>> Konstantinos
>>> >> & Amber (as chairs of NCUC & NPOC) will come up with a membership form
>>> >> that can be submitted to the NCSG-EC and the constituency at the same
>>> >> time.  Applications will be responded to by the EC within 2 weeks from
>>> >> submission.  The NCSG-EC will conduct its due diligence and verify the
>>> >> applicants and make its decision as agreed in the NCSG charter.
>>> >>
>>> >> So with respect to the recent election results and the handling of
>>> >> membership applications, it was a very productive conversation and I
>>> am
>>> >> hopeful that we now have a clearer understanding of how to move
>>> forward.
>>> >> Actually, the NCSG Charter, which was agreed to by the NCSG
>>> membership,
>>> >> NCUC, NPOC and the ICANN Board proscribes many of the mechanisms and
>>> >> processes that should be followed for administration of the SG.
>>> >>
>>> >> It is my hope and sincere wish that past differences can be put aside
>>> and
>>> >> we can all begin working together in a cooperative and constructive
>>> >> fashion to build a stronger SG that promotes the interests of all
>>> >> noncommercial users of the DNS.  NCSG welcomes its new members,
>>> including
>>> >> NPOC members, and is looking forward to working with the participants
>>> in
>>> >> the coming months to build a stronger and more diverse SG at ICANN.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you,
>>> >> Robin Gross
>>> >> NCSG Chair
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Dear members
>>> >>> NCSG EC members, NCUC members and NPOC leadership met in Dakar
>>> yesterday
>>> >>> with the ICANN Ombudsman acting as a neutral mediator.
>>> >>> The meeting focused on future practices for handling new membership
>>> >>> applications; there was and is no talk of undoing the election any
>>> more.
>>> >>> I think we identified some of the misunderstandings and process
>>> hiccups
>>> >>> that led to the initial problem and reached an agreement on how to
>>> >>> process membership applications in the future. I'll let Robin Gross,
>>> the
>>> >>> new NCSG Chair, fill you in on the details.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Milton L. Mueller
>>> >>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>>> >>> Internet Governance Project
>>> >>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> IP JUSTICE
>>> >> Robin Gross, Executive Director
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>> > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
>>> > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca
>>> > interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
>>> > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>> > Skype: alain.berranger
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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